i feel like a large comment chain just got deleted

half the teams in groups would probably have done better had they been seeded directly to playoffs and half the teams in playoffs would never have made it out of groups tbh

ah shit i thought they won both pistols on fracture, im trippin

PRX got a bye to playoffs though

they won both pistols vs PRX and still lost

Yeah Fnatic fans are in shambles. I daresay they're getting worse treatment than us and DRX.

<3

some orgs are temporarily leaving, others had banked it all on franchising.

you know what, I'll support ORDER this LCQ even though I don't like the attitudes of the players - just because you've grown on me.

Everyone is saying Fnatic sucks rn

Pain.

nah FPX look good and have been playing good. Even though it's clear DRX were mentally boomed FPX also levelled up.

dude this Odehk guy is asking for everyones socials, lowkey creepy about it too

sheesh almost threw that 3v1 all good

u got this jimjam

this

DRX the group stage beasts and FPX guaranteed 3rd place arguably beating more difficult teams (XIA, NTH, FNC, Guild, DRX) instead of OpTic (XSET, KRU, LOUD, DRX) plus XIA always being a very good contender to make it to playoffs.

Personally I think that Group B was the harder group to get out of, but not by that much. We all saw OpTic's form and the upsets during Groups. They barely made it out. KRU, OpTic, and LOUD all looked very shaky.

with DRX losing, PRX's biggest threat has been eliminated!!

ozy is a G bro

they talk about my one taps and they think for me, aiming is so easy

they did better vs optic than xset did at masters

kekw

Brim on Icebox is not new and they are 1W 1L on it - I don't think they necessarily defined it. Gambit I believe ran it first.

Paper Rex are also super happy-go-lucky, which is a lot more likable than OpTic's trashtalk. I like the players on OpTic though.

i think bazzi is a bit overrated

skt losing to g2 worlds 2019
only one i can think of rn tbh

damn

util flush
either that or you peek them
or if you're on defense you can just hold an angle/rotate/coordinate a push with a buddy. this is all assuming you have commed that u know someone is there

vouch! ^_^

L + #49

also you: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1216127/3000-posts

1 day more

i was being deliberately obtuse. i should become a full time baiter holy shit it is so easy to get you mad. i also wrote "any less wrong" and you still said "yes" to that lmao.

either way factoring in smb, they're still 7-2 vs EMEA

sadge

they need tier 2

does this make my statement any less wrong tho

he literally won Masters Reykjavik what are you on almost everyone was rating him as top 3 arguably top 1 initiator in the world.

nothing to see here, move along.

First Strike at LoL Park was INSANE

crashies is NOT underrated lol. Surf is underrated and so is Ardiis this guy is popping the fuck off but all I see is talk about Suygetsu and then Shao.

Nah. Tokyo/Seoul for APAC. Arguably Seoul because KR already has Riot infrastructure from League, and they've been hosting Challengers on LAN for ages.

JP because viewership and money.

for korea 2 spots are already a lot

?

And yeah, I'm not saying 3 isn't too much. I'm just saying KR talent is there and franchising is arguably saving the KR region from being bled dry.

Never said KR deserves 3, but you're acting like KR deserves only 1 and "maybe 2", which I disagree with. KR having 1 slot only is part of the reason KR talent is moving to other regions and qualifying from there (like NA and JP).

Results wise, KR is still a good region too considering they've had only 1 team.
1 3rd place finish
2 5-6th place
Now that I think about it KR is the best performing 1 slot region. BR/LATAM doesn't count because of playoffs seeding in 2022

Well for every tournament bar 1 the best Japanese team had at least 2 Koreans as the star player/IGL so...

As for these outdated "incredible" stats, they're the only publicly available stats to go off. Plus the Masters Reykjavik and Copenhagen stats are still relevant. Meteor and JoXJo aren't OW players btw. Neither was Xeta.

I also checked the Liquipedia page. KR sent like 1 team almost every event save for Berlin but still ranked top 2 for most events. It's arguable that JP was the worst region but don't forget Xeta and Sayaplayer were at one point considered the best in their role in NA. And Meteor literally won 3-1 against ZETA, who placed 3rd last Masters.

why downvote yourself for that lol its not even your fault

that single country puts up more numbers than entire regions, you're tripping. JP deserves all 3 slots these guys have insane viewership.

KR teams are good enough and so are their players. They've sent almost consistently the 1st/2nd most players to p much every international event and 2/3 KR teams made top 4 at APAC LCQ.
(2nd at Masters Reykjavik 2021, 1st at Masters Berlin, 4th at Champions, 2nd at Masters Reykjavik 2022, 2nd at Masters Copenhagen - every tournament except Berlin KR had only sent 1 team, whereas the top spots were usually occupied by regions that sent 2+ teams. this is crazy)
That was without the 2nd best KR team playing btw.

SEA deserves as many spots as possible though, because the talent pool and potential is really big in Valorant.

PRX skin
DRX skin
OpTic skin
DWG skin
ZETA skin

holyyyy

my guy living in 2021

to be fair, JP does have a bigger scene. Korea has talent but no resources or viewership, so hopefully franchising saves them...but not at the cost of SEA.
Indonesia, Thailand, PH, and SG/MY have proven their worth in Valorant. HK/TW and VN have yet to do that tbh.

This is good for KR, but it better not fuck up the potentially huge market in SEA.