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it's not dense to have a take that's different from others as long as there is some reasoning to it. my take simply hinges on the premise that we have seen a more consistent performance from t3xture over a larger amount of rounds regardless of how well his team has been doing compared to kangkang.

you can disagree with how i evaluate players, but i think the numbers don't invalidate my reasoning.

selective reading really coming in handy

playing more rounds does not indeed make u better, but having a larger sample size provides more accurate data. this is like the basics of statistics

ardiis hasn't played in almost 2 years man

i'm not commenting on the competitiveness of the teams i just wanted to know how long ago you heard this because i swear the last time i heard anything about european bootcamps was from LOUD way back in 2022

how long ago was this

your stats are missing key details like the fact that t3xture played double the rounds kangkang did (328 vs 154, 2 times more rounds), and h2h doesn't mean anything lol. if someone is dropping 25+ kills every map but dying to only one person on the other team, that doesn't make them a worse player.

your shanghai analysis of KK's stats are based off of 78 TOTAL ROUNDS compared to t3xture's 388!
that's a difference of 310 rounds, in other words t3xture played FIVE TIMES more rounds than KK
of course it's easier to have inflated stats when you play less games. Over time, performance averages out.

When it comes to key stats in defining a duelist, t3xture has KK beat at most of them during playoffs
higher K/D, equal ACS, higher KPR, higher FKPR, and barely worse FDPR
and this is with almost 200 more rounds played

it's no coincidence then that t3xture won the stats game at Champs with 155 rounds played to KK's 449

in terms of peak performance of course KK was the best player of 2024, he broke the kill record and won Champs with it.
in terms of overall performance over the year then t3xture was just the better player. KK has had inflated af stats that you use to justify a better performance but you cannot deny that KK's sample size was at the very least half, to 1/5th at most of t3xture's. If we want to compare players that way then it's fair to say that primmie was actually one of the best players at Champs even though he only played 85 rounds.

you are putting too much importance in team performance and not individuals.
also you:
keep in mind Zmjjkk had no good support utility because half of his players were off role
Reminder besides smoggy, everyone else on EDG was bottom 12
Reminder both of EDG intiators were bottom 6 players

you are also putting too much importance in team performance. just because the rest of kangkang's team had, according to you, no good support utility, does not cover for gaps in kangkang's own individual performance. In fact, ironically, when EDG's players started to have better support utility like at Champs, KK's individual performance barely changed, and if it did, it mostly went down. This actually suggests that the reason EDG didn't do well at Madrid or Shanghai wasn't because they were failing to set up KK properly, it was more likely that they couldn't hold their own while trying to set up KK.
KK's performance stayed the same or got slightly worse as his team's utility got better. so i don't understand the "his team had poor support utility and t3xture's had good support utility and that's why KK is better" angle.

In fact, when t3xture's team crumbled and KK's team got better, t3xture's own individual performance was comparable to KK's when KK's team was doing bad.

t3xture vs KK (i'm going use Shanghai since I think we can agree that was when EDG were at their lowest during the entire year) when their teams are shitting the bed:
rounds: 155 > 78
ACS: 242.6 = 243
K/D: 1.17 > 0.91
ADR: 157.2 > 154
KPR: 0.84 > 0.81
FKPR: 0.18 > 0.17

so as you can see the two are pretty similar when it comes to how well they do when their team shits the bed.

As for regionals, EDG during 2024 literally farmed China. They won Kickoff, Stage 1, and Stage 2, and they did it 2/3 times from the upper bracket. And you could tell that China (minus EDG) still had to catch up considering they got first rounded at every event except Champs, when the narrative finally started to shift. It's not exactly difficult to win your region when you're on the most dominant regional team of all time.

Maybe its agent pool, the better player that can flex around more
Zmjjkk: Raze, Jett, Kayo, Neon
T3xture: Raze, Jett

this is also a non argument because both KK and t3xture have different teams with different players and the way roles and offroles work is different. There's a reason players like Aspas don't get compared to players like f0rsakeN because of their ability to flex. it's about who does their job better and more consistently. KK and t3xture are both duelists, so compare how they do as duelists. Idk where this team hype merchant stuff came from. Zellsis the goat then or what lmfao

Well if T3xture has better supporting utility, while still doing statiscally worse than Zmjjkk both regionally and domestically, as well as losing h2h against Zmjjkk, as well as a worse peak performance, as well as less outside benefits towards the team, as well as a worse agent pool than Zmjjkk. What exactly makes t3xture the better player? Just because he got signed to a better team that got better performances?

Well if t3xture performed to a similar level over more rounds and matches with a good team compared to KK with significantly less rounds and a bad team, and then performed BETTER than KK over less rounds when KK had a good team, what exactly makes KK the better player? Just because KK had roughly similar stats when he had a worse team and played to a 5th amount of rounds compared to t3xture? KK got his good team, got a guy with 0.49 APR (the 2nd highest APR in the tournament) and ended up performing worse than t3xture at the stats game.

So are we serious? What else?

bro the entire team was ass at Shanghai you don't have to be a genius to see that a 9-26 loss to heretics and a 17-26 loss to PRX is a pretty bad performance. alternatively you can watch the games, i'm not saying kangkang was the worst player on the team but he wasn't exactly performing super well either.
kangkang and his entire team performed poorly at shanghai, especially after they had just won regionals. kangkang was underrated at madrid and he was good at champs, although i personally believe chichoo was the real standout player at that tournament

who are u

Madrid KK was underrated but legit everyone on EDG was ass during Shanghai you're coping by saying it was anything different. The entire team sucked. KK is not player of the year.

t3xture and Meteor were actually farming at every event, even at Champs Meteor was a top 10 player in terms of rating, and both of them had a better rating than KK at Champs too

but the fact that you put Derke 3rd and made it a debate between Zekken (and also over Meteor) even though he basically didn't do anything at every international kinda says everything.

yeah but then I don't understand why Chronicle would be no.1 still, it should be Aspas when it comes to value to a team. Shit, f0rsakeN is, in my opinion, right now a better player than Chronicle. The only reason he's up there is nothing other than the fact that he just has more trophies compared to everyone else

And why is yay in this top 10 above Alfajer when Alfajer's value to a team is significantly higher? I would put someone like KangKang above yay.

yeah but i mean trophies over everything, i feel like people with two trophies are just kind of automatically above anyone with 1 trophy, anyone with 1 trophy is above anyone with no trophy, and anyone with 3 trophies (chronicle) is above anyone with 2 trophies type shit ykwim

i saw this same rhetoric be used to exclude forsaken from top 10 lists but now we're bending the rhetoric so people with less trophies are above those with more trophies, like winning twice is no easy feat but to win twice on 2 different teams and be the mvp the second time around is a pretty big flex no?

in that regard i think sacy and meteor should both be above f0rsaken and nats tbh

i'm down to do it again to your favourite teams

Meteor should be above nAts and f0rsakeN no? 2 trophies + 1 MVP > 1 trophy + 1 MVP?
surely we're taking trophy count into account if Chronicle is #1

jokes on you i never believed in that

in 2022 you also had monsters in tier 2 like Meteor and KangKang on Chamber

betas love to complain about ranked to other people

alphas don't vent their feelings like pussies they throw slurs and hate speech in the heat of the moment

sigmas delete their accounts after every loss

do you understand?

just realised korea beat NA and EMEA to get their trophies

downfragged for the truth

actual disasterclass from foxy this game icl

which team are u referring to here

livvy dunne and baby gronk

margaret i think. francis is irreplaceable

meteor is just the mental goat, guy just pulls up with big dick plays when the team needs him man.

split vs g2 (2025), lotus vs th, ascent vs fpx, lotus vs g2 (2024)

true. western bums continue to underrate the best region/continent in the world

refer to Hynix post on rrq before the tournament for an accurate assessment on the sentiment towards rrq

sure maybe but TH didn't even make it to playoffs. they didn't even win one map.

DRX would likely not lose to TL u are on crack, at the very least they would make both games vs GEN and TL close, you aren't gonna see them get 2-0ed.

also they would make it to playoffs at minimum, seeing that one of GEN/PRX won't be in Swiss with them

no they would not 😂

fym this guy is like a top 10 worst takes user on this site

do you get paid to post on vlr or something man

plus sliggy literally did watch all 4 regions and still put pacific as the weakest region. shit if he wasn't the figurehead of the prx train he'd probably call them the weakest region again, considering that's what he did at bangkok

it's fine to not watch pacific but rating them without even watching them is peak stupidity lol

mfs will glaze memea for like 2 or 3 years straight, saying shit like 5 slots to emea and -1 from pacific and then start crying about region wars once theyre shit

and leaf

sen city baby

apac always struggled against na teams even geng

then once confronted with proof that geng did not in fact struggle against na teams

actually 100t is mid

moving goalposts is a job not a mentality bro

the only NA team gen g has "struggled" against is SEN and they literally have an equal record vs them.

geng beat g2 and 100t 2-0 at shanghai or did you forget

vs americas:
geng 2-1 loud
geng 2-1 sen
geng 2-3 sen
geng 2-1 lev
geng 2-0 g2
geng 2-0 100t
geng 2-0 sen
geng 0-2 sen
geng 2-0 mibr
geng 16-8 americas, geng 10-6 NA teams

pacific has been a top tier region since 2023 champs western biased analysts will just refuse to believe they're capable of producing top teams in 2025

my glorious king needs to win toronto first

will it be the first time a single region won every trophy in a year?

americas 3rd seed is the literal worst team in vct international history and their 1st seed just got dogged by pacific 3rd seed

high elevation with decent speed is exactly what i do for 1 hour lmao, is it too long? my primary goal is fat loss before muscle gain tbh, but obviously i want both.

i'm maintaining a roughly 500-600 calorie deficit on top of that

seems like a pretty normal weight no? but body fat is the most important factor so im guessing most of your weight is fat

o7 appreciate it. its time for you to go as well

yeah a lil, i weigh 72kg at 175cm, thats like what 154lbs at 5'9?

this shit is the best motivator ngl

got lazy im ngl, and had to relocate for school to an area without a gym close by. my school's gym is too far away (ik it's excuses but i cant lie i cannot be fucked to go unless the gym is in 10 min walking distance)

fuck i lost like all my gains i regained like 5 kg i gotta lock tf in

restarting my workout routine and adding 30 min to an hour of cardio 5 days a week

best self motivation is deadass looking at the mirror

im probably somewhere in my mid 20%s in terms of body fat, gonna try and get it down to 15~20%

what are your motivators in the gym? mine is the mirror.

feelsbad bro did not reach his potential