it might be including the previous years as well so this might be the overall ORG standings rn

i mean yea. GenG coaching staff is really god tier whereas autumn........

mate...... you really dont help your cause

an ORG might do it by like 2030 but the same 5 man roster never will. the meta changes wayyy to much for that.

he said champs

used to be Sen cause they had possibly the worst fanbase in VCT when tenz was a member but a lot of the fanboys left when he retiered and the fanbase became better so rn its still sen but its minimal hate

naaa alfa js has the most experience among the two and he can flex to like duelist if needed. benjy is a very good player but i would pick alfa over him(Th also lost both finals they played whereas alfa has won two so clearly alfa is doing something that benjy isnt but it could also be a team diff)

wait.....bro this team will prolly win everything lmfao, i forgot jhonqt was morrocan

tbh id take boo over valyn as igl(hes just more proven thats all)

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if you count 2023 off season, hmm yea age wise your team is better cause theyre younger

mako igl?

meteor and alfa is kinda debatable because meteor has been the most consistent sentinel and has been world class(top 5) for 1.5 years straight whereas alfa has had higher peaks.

and texture as well. i feel like texture is more consistent whereas kangkang has a little less consistenty but higher peaks

how about this team?
ZmjKK/texture
munchkin/mako (IGL)
meteor/alfa(if we are counting turkish players)
stax/reins(if we are counting turkish players) (second caller)
forsaken

this team will be the first to win every major in a year in esports history

Nah. They got hard read and the meta was in for EG and PRX. Its still possible they would have won but unlikely

what a weirdo

imagine they go all the way to the gradfinals and lose js like th and we get a TH win in bangkok. that would be cinema ngl

lev dont have aspas to carry them anymore bro, its gonna be a stomp

whats the current record?
also we js need another 16-16 or a 17-15 to get a 100 round bo3

i think its 23-21 by fnc vs m3c(this was a major qual or get eliminated match and i watched this live, it was a godly match) but there may have been a 24-22(not suer abt this one)

im not really gonna argue with you because in the end its an opinion and everyone has their fav team. both SEN and GenG won a major and TH made it to 2 major finals.

i mean i wasnt that much of an EG fan so im not really sure so im gonna take you word for it. jewgemo and potter were deffo the main reasons he could perform though

who do you think would win? pls give a proper reason

i mean its tooo early to say tbh. i say we wait until bangkok before hyping up any team because we dont really know how each region will go up against each other. i highly doubt anyone expected GenG to perform like they didx(i mean i followed them since the end of 2023 and while they looked very good(js like t1) it was uncertain on whether they could win a major) so we js wait and watch

yk what thats fair. i think the highest peak of the year was probably GenG in shanghai or TH in shanghai tbh. the neon meta for champs really screwed a lot of teams over(especially GenG since texture isnt an insane neon and neon kinda owned every other duelist which is why i think they bombed out of champs). the shanghai grand finals could have gone either way but TH js lost steam after the third map and GenG with their experience capitalized on it.

meteor for APAC

i think he can recover back to his prime tbh, he just needs a jawgemo and an ethan or com in his team for the util and support.

bro what? jawgemo is like the derke or miniboo or buzz of americas. bros an entry fragger and his main job is to create space for execs. hes like derke in the sense where while derke had massive popoff games it was mostly alfa or leo who led the score sheets with chroncile as the support. you cant compare the stats of aspas or oxy or any other duelist who plays less of an entry role to him because they will always look better

with how they look rn, t1 will get beat but if they lock-in and start to get synergy , theyre gonna dominate. theyre js like geng at the start of last year where geng looked shaky asf at the start of kickoff but they got their synergy and then dominated

give them time, GenG also struggled the same way at the start of the year and look at the year they had after. I think t1 has insane potential and i do think that theyll achive it. this year is going to be a t1 vs VIT vs G2 battle with a few teams added to the mix here and there

damn i did not know this backstory, yeah LEV kinda deserves what they got tbh unless it was nzr that left and lev had to find a replacement for him

na not really, loud was being a REALLY shit org and didnt pay him enough and Lev came knocking about with a higher salary and a very good team(i mean they did get top 3 in champs)

sen IS not a super team bro, they have more firepower but less experience so they got A LOT to prove befroe they become a super team, this applies to NRG as well.

the only real super team is G2 because they performed well last year and they now got a S tier duelist like jawgemo(icy was good but jawgemo is better) and VIT because they got derke, less, sayf, trexx and a very underated player in kicks(hes like chronicle but a little worse)

i mean that is true cause bros not been playing for ages so it is highly possible that hes shit rn.

also i never said he would own the stage, you said that he had a single good year while he has been consistent since the start of his career. that was what i was arguing against.

bro..... i can guarentee youve only been watching valo since 2024. leo has been among the top 3 initiators since 2022 LMFAO

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in my opinion its gotta be
chronicle
derke
less
sayf
reins

(in that order)

i think they can bet on games which do not have their team as a participant. i could be very wrong though but ardiss kinda openly does it and im sure ardiss is not that dumb especially with VIT as an org so you prolly can

i mean this could happen because all the apac teams are quite good and teams cant farm them like GenG or PRX used to but i think everyone is getting in their stride.(i hope so cause i dont want apac and geng to be shit)

i mean we will know when bangkok arrives but APAC did really well in the offseason

just another bad attempt at rage bait but a few people actually bit the bait.

bro thats js a bunch of 0s with a few letters in btw. this shit makes no sense😭😭

2024 EDG for sure. they got bullied in tokyo and came back and bulllied everyone in champs. underdogs forsure

2024 TH were also underdogs until the 2nd masters event as was 2023 EG.

only been like 3 proper underdog teams till now though(2021 acend dosent count cause it was the first year of valorant esports and we didnt even have proper teams yet)

mb bro i thought you were talking abt the whole of esports,

what about T1? i mean, theyre prolly the most famous org in esports......

mbmb forgot that this was onyl for valo

bro burnt the kitchen with this bait

they might do very well mechanically but idk abt the abilities. plus i dont think they will every shift when they are so good at their current game

sexture aint an insult anymore bro 😭😭. it has become his nickname

trace actually look good!!

..... bluelive is kinda tweaking but so r u bro.

also when did NAVI win a trophy? FPX did not navi lmao

CSGO/CS2 dosent count here bro

yes he played bad at champs but the entirity of GenG other than texture played horribly at champs. plus i think he was going thorugh a wrist injury at that time.

GenG prolly replaced him cause of the injury more than him as a player because the vibes on GenG were god tier and replacing a player cause he did bad one event especially a player who you won a major with and went to 2 finals with is an idiotic move. Meteor also got poached by T1 which probably made them really apprehensive about lakia recovering so they didnt risk it.

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