gold gold gold

he better not
i got 20 on kc

M8 is pretty good and KC is really good
(my opinions)

VIT
TH
KC (I wouldn't mind having FUT here)

make sure you get players who are available and show up
I was part of a uni team last autumn and it was a pain finding people to sub in every week

back to back 13-0's is insane

start using voice comms lil bro

I've noticed a connection...
it seems like every Italian flag avidly watches China

respect for putting yourself out there

holy shit

🙏😭

perhaps?

yeah... maybe you just gotta ban Haven if you play EDG in the future...

gold gold gold

glad to see them on the international stage again
(dont reap my pickems again pls 😭)

https://i.imgur.com/ec7pbhQ.png

I out-unc you lil bro

cb0/8bs

https://i.imgur.com/TwALfeU.png

eh

lets see your betslip

really 50 ping?
is that to Mumbai or Dubai, and is that from the north or south?

A good thing is, they've moved Pakistan to MENA for tier 2 in 2025, so hopefully we'll see more talent there
MENA orgs are usually loaded, so they can likely just fly out any talent so hopefully ping shouldn't be an issue

The app I'm using has 2.65
still very good though, I put 10 on it
https://i.imgur.com/l8XfA8s.jpeg

Yeah, I am doing the same with FNC NAVI lol

Bet365

I only do small bets though

I try watch all of EMEA and AMER
I try watch my favourite (teams)/top APAC games
I watch the very important CN games

idk who to remove but, orgs I would like to see:

EMEA: VIrtuspro/Spirit + MOUZ/Fokus/SK + Falcons
so we have a CIS + German org + MENA org
AMER: OPTC + G2 (full time) + SR
let me cope with optic

I don't know nearly enough about APAC or CN to give any good suggestions, maybe RA?

it would be toxic if that was a prediction 😭😭

he's already announced 2025 will be his last year

oh crap yeah
I had everyones name typed out, but then I realised it would just be smarter to condense the people who are still on the team/org, and Derke must've gotten lost in that

3 of them are still grinding it out in tier 2, maybe cNed joins one of their teams
but yeah 2022 hit them hard

SEN (1)
TenZ -> Retired (2025)
ShahZam -> G2 (2023) -> Retired (2024)
SicK -> Break from competitive play (2022) -> unknown (likely retired)
Dapr -> G2 (2023) -> OXG (2024) -> SEN Academy Coach (2025)
Zombs -> Retired (2023)

Gambit (Later m3c)
Chronicle -> FNC (2023)
nAts -> TL (2023)
Sheydos -> KOI (2023)
D3ffo -> Valiant (2023) -> Sweet N Sour (2025)
Redgar -> TL (2023) -> G/GX (2024) -> F/A t2 team (2025)

Acend
Kiles -> Giants (2022) -> CASE (2023) -> KPI (2024) -> Enterprise (2025)
BONECOLD -> VIT (2022) -> Retired (2024)
cNed -> NAVI (2023) -> FUT (2024) -> Break from competitive play (2025)
Zeek -> TH (2023) -> GoNext (2024) -> Enterprise (2025)
Starxo -> KOI (2023) -> Joblife (2025)

Optic (Previously Envy)
yay -> C9 (2023) -> DSG (2023) -> BLD (2024) -> EG (2025)
Marved -> SEN (2023) -> NRG (2024) -> Taking a break from competitive play (2025)
Victor -> NRG (2023) -> Taking a break from competitive play (2025)
Crashies -> NRG (2023) -> FNC (2025)
FNS -> NRG (2023) -> Retired (2024) -> NRG (2024) [-> Retired (2026)]

FPX (Later NAVI)
Ardiis -> NRG (2023) -> NAVI (2024) -> Break from competitive play (2025)
Suygetsu -> KC (2025)
Zyppan -> M8 (2025)
Ange1, Shao - still on the roster

LOUD
Sacy -> SEN (2023) -> Retired (2025)
pAncada -> SEN (2023) -> LOUD (2024)
Saadhak -> KC (2025)
Less -> VIT (2025)
aspas -> LEV (2024) -> MIBR (2025)

Fnatic
Alfajer, Boaster, Leo* = still on the roster
Derke -> VIT (2025)

EG
Demon1-> NRG (2024) -> LEV (2025)
c0m -> LEV (2024)
Boostio -> 100T (2024)
Jawgemo -> G2 (2025)
Ethan -> NRG (2024)

SEN (2)
Johnqt, zellsis, zekken - still on the roster

GENG
Lakia - Break from competitive play (2025)
Meteor -> T1 (2025)
Munchkin, t3xture, Karon - still on the roster

EDG - still on the roster

I went by seasons, so if a player is signed in December of 2022 for example, I considered them a signing for the 2023 season
lmk if I went wrong anywhere

its a 9/10 for me, I'd recommend it

tbf two months off for teams that dont make bangkok so I'd expect some teams to make changes

either way you win
or either way you lose

depends how you look at it

https://strawpoll.com/xVg71p3mpyr

https://i.imgur.com/meB6JTW.png

oh yeah fair enough
I put a small amount on DRG beating EDG because it's 2.5

navi vs fnc is a 60/40 coinflip tbh
i wouldnt bet on it

https://www.vlr.gg/438134/will-we-see-a-tier-2-cis-league-in-emea

that series was... something

hate to say it but I agree
he looks so much more comfortable on smokes

he was aight in 2021 and 2022

2023 however...

yeah high HS% doesn't make that much of a difference
(I say this as someone who averages around 38-40% and is still hardstuck)

but a particularly low HS% is bad imo

agree, there should be no disparity between masters titles

bro I'm complementing them 😭

if they stop with their haha ahh comps they'll be insane

Yeah, I agree
Overwatch character models were much more detailed in game too

I think a much more practical thing would be to create and sell music kits

each time I see you say this you find more and more similarities to add on, it's crazy 😭

starxo signed to Joblife recently
cned is taking a break
and bonecold retired

so as much as I'd love for it to happen, I don't think it will :(

I always do shite in Americas pickems for some reason, I don't even feel like I have a bias outside of G2

wow, his English has certainly improved
(I didn't catch the interview during the game, so this is the first I'm hearing it in like years)

yeah that was me lol
don't think I'm moving for another 5-6 years at least cuz I've got uni