Might get alot of flack but:

Acend
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As a c9 fan their team reminds me of the old c9 Tenz and friends team.... I think they overperform because of Cned ( he has to be great for them to have a chance to bet good teams).

Hiko confirmed it on stream

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LOOOOL

I have never seen anything so beautiful, yet so ugly all at the same damn time! hahaha

Liverpool are gonna moly woop AC without Zlatan.

Liverpool!!!

They are still running Omen on haven as well......

I'm not a fan Kyedae (just not my type of streamer, more of a Mang0 type of streamer), but this is just ppl being oversensitive. No one was targeted, it was self-deprecation.......

I wish ppl would show SicK more love!

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This.... is actually a very good list. I would put Ethan at Sage or Bunny at Raze. but nice list!

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Sintraa

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I agree that NSG is a C-tier event ... the week events that is. But the Summer Champs NSG had strong representation for a B-tier event. And C9B appropriately bossed everyone. C9B's big success was GF loss to SEN and a 3rd place finsh for Iceland ( which is top 8 now for me). the main problem, which everyone points out is that there is not alot of events for Valorant to even understand how good teams are. I think 100T Ethan said it best "teams should be separated bwt , Good, inconsistent and bad" .

I think TSM and C9B are not bad, but inconsistent teams... whereas XSET has found new success and I still think it should be a wait-and-see for them.

I agree to a certain degree..... which calls in the minor adjustments. I think the VLR rankings need to find some balcence towards the weight of events...C9B ran all over everyone in the NSG event, thus shot up the ranking system.... which isn't far to a team like TSM who won the closed qual against Faze.

Do i think TSM and C9B are better than Faze? yes, but to say C9B are better than XSET based off the NSG event.. is a bit much

I think the ranking system here on VLR is good (needs minor adjustments). It takes into account both longevity and recent winnings. So FNC who have been great most of the year stay high, while SMB (who are great) have to work their way up the system due to newfound success.

Those that complain about the system seem to think one event is good enough to be 1st on the rankings and don't take into account the WHOLE 2021 YEAR.

Ted Talk over.... I will see myself out.

I.......... can accept this! Chaos 9.

Xeta is great.... Very wholesome.

Honestly, if 100T and NV play to their skill lvl.... Berlin is in for a rude surprise... The whole Val community outside NA is sleeping on NV and 100T. Which is good for both teams.

They have a real shot in the LCQ.... it depends on who NV or 100T gets that second place auto-invite to Worlds. But I would say it's down to C9B, XSET or NV/100T for that LCQ spot. C9B looks great at the moment.

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I get why someone would think that about C9B... heck you can say this about any NA team outside of SEN 100T and NV. But you have to see the potential of this team (and other NA teams like XSET)... to understand where the hype is coming from.... We won't know for sure if C9B is Top 5 good until they, Keep the same roster and after the next VCT qual in 2022. The LCQ will be to early.

If SMB can win the run back of ACE or beat Gambit then yeah, they are an S team.The hardest game for SMB will be in the GF because SMB came out as a cool surprise but now other teams will be prepared. SMB is very good for VAL so it is cool to see them rise!

#C9WIN

My hot take is the VS or NV will win the whole thing, and a BR team gets third place beating out Acend. Additionally, Yay, outperforms both Tenz and Cned

Nice

Hiko?? He is great and he's a great person overall which is more valuable to an Org than the pro play. Why do ppl hate Hiko, he is fine.

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Same he is a great player... and he is going to LAN

TSM CEO

Does Faze say " fuck it, can't get any worse" ?

Sinatraa already said on his stream that he wants to keep playing pro Val for a top team.

Welcome to human society

..... I think when it comes to the accusations. We (as a social esports fandom and society in general) don't really care about ppl doing bad things. IE: Trump. Not to dive into the wood, but I don't think there will be a "BIG" backlash ( if the case is proven true or false). Because most ppl have all ready made up their mind about the whole thing and moved on.

Sinatraa is a good duelist as well... IF Envy feels like Victor isn't the answer ( Victor is great btw, so i don't want this to happen).

Well.... you can get rid of most orgs, because Sinatraa will demand a high salary due to his skillset...and the org has to be big to "fight" of the presumed backlash that will come when they sign him (we all know why). I would say TSM, Envy GenG, NRG or Faze Clan.

A "bit much", but yes I think most of the teams in the LCQ are better than TSM and are making moves to be better.

Renegades v SQ is the biggest rivalry..... the top teams actually don't play much.

Envy and SEN is more of a rivalry, than SEN v 100T so i agree with you.... but if we had more events then we can get more rivalries.

I would say the only "true" rivalry in NA is Renegade v SQ.

Sinatraa who be the perfect upgrade to 100T.....but the ORG would never do it. And we all know why regardless if we all agree or not.

/I would add seeding is very important in this event, because you would not want to play Aced/Gambit second round because you were" saving strats"

This is cap......

He plays Sova..... first kills is not a stat I would look at on a good Sova.

well.... yes, that is why I said Pats. But like the Pats (due to them winning0 their fan base is "a bit much".

But I'm more interested in who can take SEN down consistently, which is a next year's question. Because most teams (who are out of the champs running)m need an offseason to figure out the next steps.

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For most teams the year is already over... so why not talk about next year?

If they get more unofficial events, Val will keep on growing which i think they will.