Skip it bro, soccer is mid anyways. The real football clears.

Casual. You must have not watched SEN City Classic.

in valo, if you miss 1 game you're just fucked. they'll play in lowers, lose, then have to wait like 4 months for split one.

any emea team in the last 5 years

wdym bro they have yay supamen and potter.

is it really a crazy take? they are already missing kickoff might as well save money and leave the scene.

never seen a team more overrated than team trashetics.

bro just disband at this point.

65kg bench at 14...

bro I'm 19 and that's better than me 💀

Damn, did you have shit bookmarked or sumthin

pretty cool

I've shit on TSM Aleko aka LeviathanAG over 2 years ago. Went like 3-1 against him. What about you guys?

This doesn't mean shit, I've diffed TSM Aleko 3-1 before.

I don't even know who you are

team trashetics might be the most overrated team of all time

talk about the real football instead of that cardio snoozefest.

Concord disrespect is crazy

tf does that have to do with anything. mfs don't play basketball for a 100 years straight lol

yes, its from hltv. originates from phrases like "gr8 b8 m8" or "I r8 this bait 8/8"

eight rhymes with bait

its almost like valorant has 3 majors a year whereas nba has 1...

lmao, you always call me fat but I'm actually skinny asf

there shouldn't even be one.

played on the best team of 2023

that's exactly my point, bro only won because he was on a stacked team.

I agree completely, I just figured it wasn't even a worth a response.

Yeah, trying to have genuine debate and discussion is impossible with them.

just speak the truth, and everyone just goes mad.

Crashies must have carried

what more do you want the guy to do

I thought I made it clear already. I want the guy to win a chip as THE BEST player in the entire tournament or at the very very least, on his team which he hasn't done yet. The other crap you listed doesn't really mean anything.

Why do you think that? Just because he's not the guy with the shiny plays?

Leo is also not flashy, yet was always more impactful based on rating.

You make reasonable points, to me winning trophies means you are a valuable asset to any team. But if you aren't even the best player for any of the 3, you can't be the greatest to play the game. He doesn't have the peak.

And it's pretty dishonest to talk about 2022 like his country wasn't at war and he got directly affected by it lol

That's tough, but for fair discussion, I can't just ignore missing out on an entire year of high level competition even if he was a victim of circumstance.

f0rsaken is too, so bad argument.

no the problem is he doesn't have a high peak. can't be the goat if you've never even been the best.

there is no goat. to be the goat you need consistency, yes its true. but chronicle doesn't have the peak which is just as important. guys like tenz, yay and demon1 are on the other end of the spectrum where they have extremely high peaks but no longevity. so therefore there is no conversation.

he's impactful, but he's never been the very best.

its good, just not goat worthy. i haven't seen him be DOMINANT.

I'm right tho. People like you just don't wanna accept the truth.

but the difference is nobody said demon1 was the greatest player to play the game tho.

Compare it to real sports. Tophy argument gets thrown out the window when you apply context. Like I follow nba for example, guys like Bill Russell and Robert Horry have more rings than Jordan, that does not mean they are the Goats of basketball.

Explain why he is in the goat conversation according to shitmea fans? He has never even been the best player on his teams. He is the Robert Horry of valorant, won trophies with players better than him.

2021 - nAts
2022 - didn't even make it to LAN
2023 lock/in - leo
2023 tokyo - alfajer
2023 champs - leo and alfajer
2024 - derke

not saying he is bad but he isn't dominant at all to be considered goat. just good at his role.

Embarassing.

Chronicle was never even the best player on his team 😹😹😹

Babybay and poised are right there.

Skrossi.

Sayf is better than chronicle. If he took his place on fnc they wouldn't lose a match

Demon1.

Nah that's an upgrade

Better than that baiter le0.

This is an off season event. Doesn't really mean shit.

weak link of lev

trexx and cloud haven't accomplished shit.