C9 didnt even look that bad against them and g2 looked incredible. For example, g2 won 13 postplants vs c9. The teams may not have been sen or loud but they are still good teams

Idk if it counts but the sen city tournament had matches without commentary

That’s the scrim lev we all know and love

He did it on c9 too

t1 2-0

Ppl on this site hate c9. They will never be happy when c9 looks good and has potential

Fuck nrg they are losing

Generational hater

The level of hating needs to be studied

No tejo

Americas: -nrg +literally any other org on the planet. Fuck nrg
Emea: -idk(not liquid tho)
Pacific: -Talon + idk
China: -AG + idk

??

Aint rankers scrimming now?

It has nothing to do with how they would compare head to head. Alexis has incredible utility and nobody can argue that

did you see how good g2 looked? Im assuming not

g2 would shit on them with ease

5 pistols
4 bonuses
Still barely winning

??? I would be biased to say it doesn't matter to make internationals because c9 never makes internationals and oxy would be considered better than he already is

Surely not cause that would be 0%. Leo cant even play rn

Aspas is the goat. His consistency and ability to make internationals is what proves it

I feel like ppl already consider him one of the greatest. Also Johnqt is not on his level

The sub roster looked better

he realized it wasn't furia's year 🤣💀

0 chance fpx lose

I know c9 have been spamming deathmatch but I doubt its just a kickoff thing

??

I still feel like lev are not very good

C9 and loud swapped

Don’t gotta take it personal damm

A lot of pros say he has the best aim in Americas but its really hit or miss. These last 2 games he looked more like fns. I think its nerves considering how good he reportedly is in scrims.

Still got high hopes for their ability all good

Ardiis sized gap from 15-16 is so true

Since categories arent ordered, perfect.

"lev"

Nrg and kru are still good. As a c9 fan, i despise them but tbh they are still very skilled

DFM

Yeah make sense. Based on that, only difference for me would be having lev one lower. Otherwise good list

G2
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SEN
100T
C9
Kru (One bad showing but should still be insane)
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NRG
Loud
LEV (Frauds)
EG
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FURIA
MIBR
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2G

Not bad but surely loud is low a or b

Fair enough. Just off the kru potential and last year ability, I was thinking they would be higher

c9>loud
Kru didnt play well but they should still be very good(def above eg)
Lev still fraud watch imo

Im basing c9 off of oxy playing like he did last year and reportedly plays in scrims. C9 still looked good without him at his peak. Also 100t looked good.

S:
g2
A:
Sen
c9
100t
nrg
B:
kru
lev
C:
loud
eg
D:
mibr
F :
furia
2g

c9 2-0
Obviously didnt play well vs g2 but they still look good. Depends heavily on oxy playing decently.

Mw is mid. Overrated by too many ppl

Nightz

Don’t you want him to shit the bed

C9 is cool imo since it’s unique. V collar is bad tho

They somehow managed to glaze the Sen jersey

Clove take is horrible that agent needs a nerf. Look at ranked win rates