If top 3 in americas every year but getting grouped at champs means victor and crashies are washed, ig everyone who didn’t qualify for champs is washed too. Not to mention the other players that grouped at champs, nats, sayf, shao, suygetsu, cned, etc. You’re really trying to say all these guys are washed?

maybe they can get higher than top 4 this year

bro dissed MXM and still gets clout from it, he's a strategic genius at least give him that

Asuna_Yuuki, he’s like pest control for the Nrg haters

eu back at it

There's a decent chance lev and loud get off to slow starts, with this format anything's possible imo

LEV 2-1
Boostio and Cryo carry map 1 but their backs are too tired to win another map

NRG 2-0 mwzera and friends
13-11
13-4

RIP sen lmao

Rglm makes marved retire

dfm 2-0 meiy drops 50

prx and drx have always been the two consistent teams and they both experienced major changes. i think that leaves a lot of room for teams like secret to make a run. i could easily see them at shanghai or champs

Anyone who was competent in 2022 would’ve been washed in 2023 with how garbage sen was and still is. He was meant to take a year off and not only did he come in to save your team from losing in the first round of lcq, but he also volunteered to be an igl because kaplan thought it would be a great idea to leave the roster without one.

1. loud qualifies for madrid and places well, but underperforms for the rest of the year
2. nrg performs miserably at the kickoff tournament
3. rrq makes a lan

keznit and shyy can't 2v5

in 2023 we also heard that sen was the scariest team at lock in 💀

clears k0plan and s0kko

how

Moneyball for Eg would be hilarious, I mean look at what happened to the a’s after moneyball dropped.

Fnatic struggled against c9 🤡

fnc are gonna fall off they were only good bc of mini's coaching and now they got elmapuddy who's accomplished nothing

most rational navi flair?

they have 2 champs winners and 3 champs runner ups, there is literally no way this team can be "overrated". maybe they'll be good and maybe they'll fluke but ur stupid if you think scrims after a couple weeks together with ethan being igl for the first time is indicative of anything. calling nrg bad because of scrim results would be like saying fnatic is a bad team because they struggled vs c9 with curry. offseason is meaningless

Preach

Champions 2025 grand final leaked

Oxg 2-0

your precious navi couldn't even beat nrg with the spy ardiis

with how fnc has been playing any time they lose it should be considered an upset

duelist: koalanoob
controller: zander
initiator: bcj
flex: nismo
sentinel: dapr

Nrg/lev
Fnc/fut
T1/tln
Edg/fpx

💀

So back

Seoldam had his moments on dfm and with veterans like rb supporting him I think he could be really good.

t2 korean roster with zest rb k1ng and maybe some others that got dropped from tier 1 like sylvan and seoldam would go crazy

na here to carry

Smg 2-0

BBL 2-0 KRU

SMG 2-0 G2

Listen, I’m sure lev has a vision with this roster. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn’t. All the team had done so far is win an off season event. Not saying I agree with switching to English, but given the whole team puts up with it I don’t see it as an issue. If one of the original core members didn’t want to be on an English roster, they would’ve left like Shyy did. Just let the season play out and stop creating melodrama.

Talon in shambles

Mickey Mouse don’t count

Try to go outside first

Americas has 2 champs trophies, MEMEA has 1. That’s all that counts.

How can you say they went back to regular season form? They had semi close maps vs Prx and a competitive game with giants. Ig it’s like regular season in that they couldn’t close out a game, but they still performed well against strong teams which is def an improvement.

Zekrom and Miraidon clear

are governor and/or ban imports?

Sen, nrg (assuming they sign a decent roster), lev

Inception (Matrix, The Departed, Ford V Ferrari, and The Creator are also very good)

never saw this coming

Who won champs again?