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wait why did optic only win a trophy because of politics????
tyglue 2-1 edward glue
EG 2-1
oxy gets 70 kills but rest of team cant get 50
BLG 2-0 wont be a close game
prx 2-0, wont even be close maps
davai goes +18
Delighted 2-0 RID
QTD 2-0 000 academy
🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️
🕯️ oh great demon1 🕯️
🕯️ son of EG cUm 🕯️
🕯️ pls save NA 🕯️
🕯️ from these teams 🕯️
🕯️ of bagres 🐟 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️
by beating teams
ur right, we need to make it 7 times a week starting from now on
it seems like teams that get third place at big events often fall off
wolves (3rd toronto, now 0-3 PLEASE WOLVES PROVE THIS WRONG GOD PLEASE.)
lev (3rd champs, barely winning anything this year)
loud (3rd place champs 23, lost to furia the next year)
burger boys (3rd na challengers stage 2 playoffs, now 0-3(pls prove this wrong))
edg (3rd bangkok, fell apart after)
theres like a 3 day break between the FPX vs DRG and FPX vs XLG game
didnt you get reverse swept by b0tality?
also by more consistent i mean more consistent at making internationals
none of these teams will win
RRQ is indeed a sneak but DRX isn’t
I agree with all of these
Honestly, this is one of the most grounded takes I’ve seen on the T1 documentary. You're spot on when you say that these kinds of internal clashes are incredibly common—especially in top-tier competitive environments where expectations are sky-high and results don’t match.
What stood out to me too is how you emphasized realism—and I agree. While most fans want to see polished highlight reels and "team synergy" narratives, the truth is far messier, and that’s exactly what the documentary exposed. Flame, ego clashes, poor delivery of feedback—it all sucks, but it’s part of what happens behind the scenes when emotions are at their peak.
That said, I get why people are critical. For a public release, the rawness can come across as dysfunction or toxicity, especially for people who’ve never been in a team environment at that level. Buzz flaming Sylvan isn’t right, no doubt, but pretending it never happens on other teams is naive. You nailed it—the only difference is T1 chose to show it.
I do agree with you on being surprised that T1’s org approved this for public release. Not because it’s uniquely bad—but because most orgs work hard to hide anything that might damage public image. It’s a risky move and maybe not the smartest in terms of PR, even if it is a bold attempt at transparency.
In the end, I think this doc isn’t so much about drama—it’s about what pressure and expectation can do to even the best rosters. It doesn’t excuse the behavior, but it humanizes what we often just see as brands and names on a scoreboard.
Honestly, this is one of the most grounded takes I’ve seen on the T1 documentary. You're spot on when you say that these kinds of internal clashes are incredibly common—especially in top-tier competitive environments where expectations are sky-high and results don’t match.
What stood out to me too is how you emphasized realism—and I agree. While most fans want to see polished highlight reels and "team synergy" narratives, the truth is far messier, and that’s exactly what the documentary exposed. Flame, ego clashes, poor delivery of feedback—it all sucks, but it’s part of what happens behind the scenes when emotions are at their peak.
That said, I get why people are critical. For a public release, the rawness can come across as dysfunction or toxicity, especially for people who’ve never been in a team environment at that level. Buzz flaming Sylvan isn’t right, no doubt, but pretending it never happens on other teams is naive. You nailed it—the only difference is T1 chose to show it.
I do agree with you on being surprised that T1’s org approved this for public release. Not because it’s uniquely bad—but because most orgs work hard to hide anything that might damage public image. It’s a risky move and maybe not the smartest in terms of PR, even if it is a bold attempt at transparency.
In the end, I think this doc isn’t so much about drama—it’s about what pressure and expectation can do to even the best rosters. It doesn’t excuse the behavior, but it humanizes what we often just see as brands and names on a scoreboard.
TLDR: The documentary isnt that bad and happens to a lot of teams especially to teams who win then lose right after due to clashes of ego, confidence and everyone wanting to fix the issue because they feel they need to be perfect.
This is probably one of the hottest take out there because everyone and I mean everyone ive talked to collectively agrees that it is awful.
From my perspective the T1 documentary is just about the most realistic thing ive seen, as a person who has been in a competitive team environment for many years, the flaming, the overtalking, the lack of accountablity makes total sense. The only difference is T1 decided to show it.
Expectations
A team like t1 when getting formed was projected to be a korean superteam, many people thought they would go on to win events, this includes the players, every player in that squad knows that they are good, but the lack of results causes a ton of tension, when it gets to that degree, people will start blaming and getting mad at each other, it happens in a majority of teams, I promise you not a single team in the entirety of VCT in tier 1 history has ever not conversed like buzz or autumn. A lot of it comes from fustration at the lack of results this is especially true if your a player like buzz who has had multiple years of success and proven himself as a player, when things go wrong its not wild to think he would get upset, and voice his opinion to try and win.
Now I can already hear the replies saying "just because he is upset doesnt give him the right to flame or scapegoat slyvan" and you would be absolutely correct, Buzz is not in the right for flaming, but its bound to happen, thats just a consequence to losing, buzz feels like he knows how to fix an issue that happened and so he voiced it. "just because you were told not to do that smoke doesnt mean to NEVER do that smoke" this is a super valid complaint on its own, its just the delivery done that is poor.
Everyone except like izu pretty much then starts to give solutions to problems they have, whether it be comp changes, whether it be how they play, whether it be how they prep, whether it be how they comm etc etc and what happens is someone else will think thats not problem and thats where the tension gets super high. Its obvious that people like stax or buzz are in the wrong, im not a white knight here to protect them, but what im saying is, that people will just say shit when they get mad and feel things need to be fixed and that this isnt them. What they are doing is very realistic and happens to a lot a lot of teams, maybe not to the exact degree but especially good teams, will suffer the same problems. Nothing a coach or player said is completely unreasonable, they all make sense individually but seem poor due to delivery.
The documentary that t1 made is meant to capture the intense moment the team has had. For all we know right after buzz apologised after the fact but it will never be shown because the camera doesnt capture it all. You should never judge a player, coach or staff unless you know the full story which is something a singular documentary will never show, especially if it shows peoples worse moments when they get caught up in high intense moments of emotion. Everyone at one point or another will have breakdowns that make 0 sense to an outsider. I think people blaming autumn for his strats and stuff and I think thats dumb, of course they wont show that, all voice comm videos are limited, cut and edited, just because t1 one showed more, doesnt mean it shows it all.
There is much worse out there, there is much worse said in other esports, or sports in general. its not something healthy, you would be correct in saying having none of it would be better, but it happens and this isnt anything new, people just wont show it to you because no one wants other people to see them at their worst only this "propaganda" esc where it shows people at their best.
Honestly when I heard ppl talking shit, I thought it would be really bad but for a team that won then lost very quickly after everything shown makes complete sense, and I wouldnt be suprised if it was worse but never shown.
The only people im dissapointed in or I guess suprised by is the org t1 for allowing this to be shown because yes it happens a lot but it should never be public, like drama and stuff.
apparently it goes leaked that TS isnt making champs 2025
-free1ng +flashback and this team is winning it all
TS isnt a chinese team
I think sometimes in the grand finals of VCT events, double ban advantage sometimes is so huge that team from lower bracket who are coming exhausted after long run dont even get to show how good they are. I think to even out the odds little bit Upper bracket team should still keep the double ban advantage but lower bracket team should be able to pick 1st and 3rd maps in a Bo5. 3rd picked map wouldnt be that favoured for lower bracket team anyway because of a double ban. Any thoughts?
2024 hereshits is just the same roster no?
ur predictions suck EKING 2-0