Bro he asked you to not quote him on that 💀

We are getting yay bro. We are fkin getting yay! yay and TenZ, imagine!

bro u can't drop a bomb report like that and then not put a clip !

Mfers were struggling to get a legit coach bc teams were asking for heavy sum. clout ≠instant money.

That would be ideal but i don't think we are gonna get that since OpTic players are too hot in the market and vic & crashies are a package deal.
SicK
TenZ
Valyn
Zekken/trent
Aproto/moose

If there's one player I could keep at SEN it would be him. people forget how good he was on agents like Phoenix, sage and raze. Keep TenZ, SicK the dynamic duo and build from there. discuss?

What was the joke?

no shit!

It sure as hell looks like it since you are complaining about his twitter fans who are mostly just interacting with their fav pros and not setting up a debate of who is better and what not!

+20 for a losing team where everyone in his team went negative. The balls on this guy to talk shit LMAO. like bro your team's owner would give anything to have TenZ, that's why he got his gf when he couldn't get TenZ. Watch the frosT interview with Vansilli.

Not everyone can be the best player, by nature 'the best' is going to be only one person, does that mean no one else deserve to be pro? This year yay was phenomenal, doesn't mean TenZ doesn't have what it takes to be a pro! What tf is that reasoning? TenZ kept SEN in the conversation, without him they were going out against open bracket teams!

So just his fans interacting with him?? Cz I doubt they are saying how he is the best in his regular posts that has nothing to do with pro valorant or comparisons between pros! Or are you just annoyed that he has fans that your favorite player/team doesn't have?

Owns 100T every time he plays them that's for sure!

His answer was no and then corrected himself to say you can still learn with an ego which is not true btw. Ego and confidence are not the same thing. Also. real life questionnaire doesn't work like a video game cutscene btw!

Also, why would you always need to think you can do something better than others? Specially in a FPS game you can approach something in multiple different ways and all of them can be right if you do it the perfect way. If you are constantly thinking of besting others you can lose sight of where you are going imo.

watch the clip again. When the other guy asked "so you have nothing to learn?" he answered no!

The topic was 'ego' btw and there is always need to be a healthy balance. If you think you have nothing to learn then you are not gonna get better!

LMFAO I have just noticed that you can't see the other person in the clip. He does kinda sound like zellsis tho.

SicK and tenZ are fairly humble imo but yeah the rest needed to land on their feet a long time. I think shroud misread what the psychologist was saying cz shroud doesn't come off as an egotistical person on his streams or interviews.

W

So derke is a t3 player who TenZ made look like a noob? Without TenZ SEN wouldn't even have qualified for that 1 month long tournament where SEN went 0-5 with him being sick. They were losing against fkin Akrew until he said fk it imma do it myself! You guys underestimate how fking bad we have been as a team this whole year.

But they weren't! He is basically a rookie at his profession! I would give him the benefit of the doubt tho that he didn't understand what 'detrimental' meant and thus couldn't reply why overconfidence was bad per se

But still it baffles me how he can be so full of himself specially in the coaching profession. Confidence is key but like he achieved nothing as a coach to assert that level of confidence!

Rawkus being egotistical Bro what???

Even as a SEN fan I can't say you are entirely wrong but my hope is that they went after clout to secure their position in the franchise league cz performance isn't guaranteed, clout is if you sign the right people( Shroud, Tarik). Now that they have the spot I expect them to put up a competitive roster and a back them with coaching stuff and shit.

Sheydos+ Leo?

Now they will share their knowledge among all the teams they play for and multiple NA teams will become decent on intl. stage. That's a W in my book!

bro this team is gonna win everything in EMEA!

nah his sova was ass and he said it himself that he didn't like playing sova.

I agree but I wanted to do even number for this list and exact 25 players for 25 teams become too rigorous imo

You don't need much to be a KJ player. Setups that your coach shows you and have insane lurk timing which goes the same for every sentinel mains. Cypher is the true sentinel imo. Fade is the only initiator he was comfy on. Didn't like sova or breach so I think 'Sentinel' is the only category i could have put him on.

I could see several teams having 6 men rosters.

I have tenz on the list but not so sure about shaz anymore.

Top 30 NA players that should be in the franchised league imo-

Initiators:
Crashies
BcJ
Eeiu
Trent
Derrek

Controller:
Marved
Bang
Valyn
Vanity
Moose
Hon mention: skuba
Supamen

Duelist:
Yay
TenZ
Babybay
leaf
Cryo
corey
sayaplayer
jawgemo
Will
Hon mention: bdog

Flex:
Victor
Xeppa
Asuna
JonahP
Zekken
Dicey
SicK
Hon mention: s0m

Sentinel:
FNS
Aproto
dapr
Dephh
Hon mention: mitch

Since the introduction of Chamber and traditional sentinel agents like cypher and KJ being incredibly week, I think the role of a sentinel main has become obsolete hence I put less than 5 sentinel players on the main list. I feel like having a full time sentinel player isn't worth it anymore, rather I would have a player who can play cypher/kj occasionally but can easily switch to other roles and perform well. Feel free to give your honest opinion.

What's with people thinking zander is a god or something? Valyn is a much better igl and a better controller imo.

triple initiator without rigorous game plan and a duelist to take advantage of the util is just dumb. No one does it like that in majority of maps. I remember a game against FaZe on haven where 3 guys where breach ulted on C site haven and no one was there to follow up on it.

The feeling I got from his tweet is that he doesn't mind staying with TGRD but I don't think he would pass up on a franchise team if he is given the freedom to build the team.

Bro made them play triple initiator cz apparently chamber is a duelist. Is your chamber OPer/ or even rifler supposed to run in first and die? How a chamber gonna create space like a raze or a jett and who is gonna hold that space and play off of the triple initaitor flashes?? That shit was baffling! No wonder FNS called zellsis out on it live on stream.

What is that? No way you think SEN has had a legacy like SKT and the core players are past their prime.

mCe is literally a FA rn. What he did with bunch of no namers in TGRD is incredible

You think rawkus is good enough? Also, We literally have role issues cz we don't have an entry fragger except TenZ who has stated multiple times that he doesn't like entrying and would rather play a secondary fragger/OP role.

Just visited the Sentinels vlr page and we haven't beaten a top top team in a year and a half. Ik that we have gone through some shit but no way ShahZam & Co. can be excused for this shambolic track record. If there's smoke, there's fire. When FNS joked about SEN doing the least amount of prac he wasn't saying things out of his ass. We can't blame this on one person and get done with it. We need massive overhaul and we need to start with a legit coach. Discuss..

SEN was the most popular valorant team well before shroud and Tarik.

CS nerds always have a way of getting things wrong related to valorant. A lot of orgs invested early into valorant so are they all going to be partnered for the val league? By design some teams were going to be left out, that's the reality! look at Don Haci spewing bullshit out of nowhere lmao, as if orgs made valorant popular. None of the legacy orgs like G2, TSM has done anything significant in valorant and aren't the most popular teams or anything. CS boomers always assuming shit that they have no clue about.

TenZ singlehandedly got SEN a franchised spot. L bozo

OpTic combined clout surpasses s0m

yes they are but obviously they would want to stick together since they have gotten so much success together and NRG has deep pockets to satisfy their financial demands.

NRG will sign the full OpTic roster. Calling it now cz I am more reliable than Leorge Leddes.

People call him a one trick Andy but he actually tried playing a hit or miss agent like Raze, unlike certain someone who got to take the full advantage of the chamber meta and rightly so. Victor is one of the best razes in the world and he had some stinker performances on that agent just cz it's so hit or miss based on how your team/opponent is playing and how difficult it is to master. SEN didn't even think to put their OPer and main fragger on chamber initially cz 'oh who would entry!!' Since he started playing chamber after the first nerf he went negative in 1/8 matches(19-20) and had respectable numbers for someone whose team was getting shit on. And now chamber is getting nerfed again next yr and bc of this 'get a free pick tp away' agent we will just forget how impressive going 19-2 in FB:FD in the Finals no less was playing Raze, Reyna in the mix! It could have been different, in a different team at a different time.

good bait