I agree with most of what you said for Kayo Knife. I acknowledged that by saying the timing for these perfect knifes are very slim. This is a very difficult timing to get the hang of.

Flashes are a thing we'll disagree on. How to do a perfect pop flash out of a smoke is not standing directly at the edge of the smoke at pop flashing, that gives enemies the full 1 sec of windup time to be able to watch. Instead place yourself a few steps back and then pop flash. With some timing practice anyone can get the hang of it.

Kayo Flashes have a much higher skill ceiling than Skye Flashes. Although her bird does give info, as we are in the initiator meta atm, Kayo is not going to be your solo initiator. His job on the team isn't really for recon but his utility. Kayo flashes are so good because a mastered Kayo has perfect flashes for every choke point. Also, Kayo flashes don't have a loud sound queue, which makes it even harder to turn.

The devs have already addressed the KJ ult situation saying that they have faith in KJ players to find better ult spots. Maybe combo Kayo ult + KJ lockdown?

Ult is not necessary for a nerf I agree. Kayo is a fun agent to watch and not one you are really able to easily see the oppressiveness of like pre-nerf Sova.

Thanks for the reply and reading my post in its entirety.

You can't always shoot the knife.

my new favorite person on vlr.

Mark my words, Kayo will rise in pick rate slowly but surely in other regions as well. Phoenix Ult comparison was a bit bad but I didn't feel like analyzing the ult because there isn't really much to analyze IMO. He's a top agent who we should keep on our radar for potential nerfs. Also the molly buff is stupid my ranked games are thrown now :(. (Salty KJ abuser on Ascent.)

Haven is a decent map for Kayo. He gets outclassed by Breach and Fade IMO. And going triple initiator is not the move as we saw with Sen.

We haven't seen chamber nerfed yay so idk. I'd say we won't see what we did for Stage 1 and 2 where he was the solo chamber, he might return back to the jett who knows. I'm sure Optic knows better than us no lifers on vlr lol.

Zero/Point no longer suppresses enemies out of LOS (like sova dart)

Nah that is kind of the whole gimmick with Zero/Point. It doesn't need LOS. Your first option was good, although I'd make it 6s.

I think windup doesn't really matter as if you position yourself correctly it will pop perfectly at the chokepoint. Full Flash decrease sounds good.

I'd say first increase ult points, and if the ult is still supremely busted then go through with the other nerfs.

Dude, what do you mean think for yourself. This thread is literally my thoughts on Kayo lol. Even if he's useless on some maps it doesn't make him a bad agent.

https://www.vlr.gg/130873/valorants-kayo-problem

Fade is insane for sure but I feel possible nerfs for her are much easier to implement. I'd say a slight reduction in hp for her dog and decay doing less damage would do wonders for balancing her. Also either making the ult a bit skinnier or a bit shorter (1 - 2 lines) would put her in a great spot. Idk though I'm shit at balancing agents lol.

I'll preface this with saying NA has a boner for Kayo. Seriously. 77% of their games they play Kayo, having 100% pickrate on 3 maps as well. EA however has only 32%. Now this might just highlight that NA is weird and loves Kayo. But as this game becomes more and more utility based, (utility combo, site executes, fakes, etc) Kayo's pickrate should only become higher and higher. I'll break down each of Kayo's abilities and why, all together, it creates the most broken agent in the game (besides Chamber).

Zero Point:
On average, it takes ~12 seconds to rotate on each map. Obviously this changes on certain maps (Breeze). Kayo's suppress takes away 8 seconds off that clock. Kayo can outright shut site executes down, by suppressing certain members which wastes utility already used in setup. This gives them one of two options, wait for their util to come back, allowing precious rotation time, or they can brute force it using no util (the Bronze player creed).

Example: Two Omen smokes go down and Jett dashes into her smoke. Her Sova Recon Darts. Breach is about to stun + flash but gets suppressed. Now the other teammates are isolated from Jett with a smoke going up on the chokepoint, Jett easily gets picked off from the defenders as she has no one to back her up. This not only leaves this to a 4v5 but takes away most of the explosiveness from the opposing team.

Work Arounds:
Bait out Kayo Knife before hand.
Kayo fails the time because it is a very tight timing you have to get.

Flash
Kayo can execute two flashes. Left Click for a flash that will pop after 1.6 sec, Right Click for a pop flash after 1 sec. Overhand flash is a flash primarily used for teammates in set plays and executes and is very easy to perfect flash with. Underhand flash can be used for bursting out of choke points with a difficult flash to turn, and pop flashing out of smokes. A good Kayo places themselves at a small distance from the choke point so the flash pops directly there and does not give any time to dodge. A full blinded enemy is blinded for 2 seconds.

I don't think there is too much debate about this but this is the best flash in the game. It is so versatile in its uses which makes it so useful.

Molly
This is the worst part of Kayo's kit and its still pretty good. It's heaviness doesn't allow for too much lineups but it can be used to break KJ lockdowns without LOS thanks to the new buffs to his molly. It stalls for 4 more seconds and buys time for that 12 rotate time I was talking about earlier.

Ultimate
A 7 point Phoenix Ult that also suppresses everyone in a large radius? Sounds great. Ult lasts for 12 seconds, its a huge slow on defense side and great for executes on attack. Its an S tier ult for an S tier character.

I spent way too much time writing this so heres a tldr with a bit more
TLDR
Kayo is an agent which can do too much better than other agents. Whether that be his duelist-initiator hybrid replacing duelists on maps like Icebox. Or his flashes just being better. Kayo forces other agents into smaller niches because he can just do it all more reliably. Also cool robot man.

I'd say Marved on Astra and FNS on Viper. IMO better combo if you insist on running double smokes. But my ideal comp would be

Yay - Chamber
FNS - Breach
Marved - Astra
Crashies - Fade
Victor - Kayo

Sweet Talk - Saintmotel

Torterra >>>> all other gen 4 starters

They mean - "Do you think more csgo pros will switch to Valorant with the announcement from Riot."

ngl that was pretty good.

... dude i feel like it should just be a flat 45 sec across the board

I think you like to play as the Ramen Stand worker on Split. You haven't played val in a while.

This is a bit difficult because you didn't give me your full SSN or your credit card.
It may just be the crab on Breeze that walks along the tree.

I'm sorry did you say TenZ can't play Reyna?
https://www.vlr.gg/player/9/tenz/?timespan=all
His second most played agent is Reyna with an insane KD.

Just give me
Pic of your credit card (front pls)
Your Social Security Number.

0/8

Wp to both teams, nt Onic. 19-17 what a banger.

I'm on Indian origin so all I gotta say is Paneer Tikka + Butter Naan = perfection.

LFGGG all of SEN's opponents ff at the mere sight of Shroud.

Nah he said if Sen get into franchising and the league is held in LA he would be pursuing pro Valorant. Said it on stream

Read #13 again please.

You guys can't read lol. April 17, 2021.

It says something about you if whenever you have free time the first thing you look to is vlr.

For who? Genuinely curious because if you have the time to post this much you must not be getting that much work right?

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You've posted about once every two hours. If anyone's jobless it's you.

I was wondering if you actually read these bait posts lol.

If you're just going to reply with that what am I supposed to say lol. Remember how many "Fluketic" threads there were after lower finals?

What? I saw so many threads on shitting on Optic and PRX. It's not one region that is not toxic. All the regions are toxic sadly.

Boring.

I agree Hiko is the best player itw currently.

I'd say Top 10 at least

iron 1

I mean, he did do good. 24-20

Isn't that what every region does?

*ok FaZe Kiko

That was a joke because some EU guy made a thread about EU ppl being "genetically superior".

I'd say PRX midrounding is some of the best itw rn.

The most calm discussion on vlr.

Says the Fnatic fan?

6.36 million people would like to disagree.

Hmmm, everyone was talking about how Guild's playstyle completely counters PRX's. Now the narrative switched?

Alr yea i was wrong abt the spanish thing.

13% of America speaks Spanish.

23% of America is Bilingual.

I still don't like the generalization though. if 23% are bilingual, more than 1/5 close to 1/4 of every American you talk are bilingual.

As a 2nd generation Indian, I'd say you're wrong. At least in my experience most of us grew up speaking our native language at home. I'd say this is common for Asian countries, much less so for European. Also like half the country speaks Spanish.

Xenophobia: dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

You said you didn't support xenophobia earlier and now you're saying that you are "proud of hating them, I fucking hate their countries". Also, most people don't hate the British and French.