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KangKang

if G2 had better macro, consistency, micro, gameplans, and meta reads then how did they lose

pls explain

Leo does not have longevity like Derke and Chronicle

stats aren't everything tho and longevity is more important than just being the best at one point of time

also Leo and Alfajer did not carry just because they played the best

I would understand your point if Derke and Chronicle a little bit more but it's years

if its made in Thailand its not a manga

its just a Thai comic

Manga is Japanese

blud got baited

if you lose to another team then you aren't the best team its quite simple

explain what was actually better about G2 even tho T1 won

T1 won therefore T1 is better

wtf is a south east asian manga

Less made a masters final and won champs in 2022, in 2023 he got second in LOCK//IN, won Americas and got top 3 at champs, 2024 he was on a worse team that Alfa due to Aspas leaving but still managed to make Madrid.

2025 he moved to EMEA, joined a whole new team and won Kickoff and got top 4 at Bangkok

Less defines consistency

how lol Chronicle was on prime gambit and Derke has been one of the best players in the world since the first ever masters

and they both have the same achievements as Leo

yeah I agree

I put Meteor since he's the goat of Pacific at this point yet Alfa is over shadowed by loads of Emea pros

https://imgur.com/a/3zSXpjx

based off longevity, individual as well as team performance, peak, as well as tournament wins

only includes players that actually have some sort of argument of being the best in their role/region or the goat (For example I know Marved was good in 2022/2023 and is a trophy winner but there is no argument for him being the goat of anything but being washed)

make your own https://tiermaker.com/create/vct-pros-all-time-17454457

read?????

downvoted for telling the truth

did Shao win masters get second at a masters and second at champs?

dude dominated 2022 and had the highest peak out of any player

ignore this I made a new one

to be washed you had to be good in the first place

hes not in the goat conversation because he doesn't have longevity

no one cares

its not based on the map score bruh it was a 3-1

its not even been a day

TS won't even make Toronto

don't crouch

true lol

no one deserves to win, you have to earn it

if you deserved to win you would've won

instalock iso if ur ass

instalock Yoru if u want a challenge and are high elo

how do roles not matter then is it CS

dude strock is not a word

u lost the plot ever since reply #4

firstly you clearly didn't have a hard time reading it since you understood it and corrected me on my mistake

secondly "you gave me a strock" doesn't even mean anything lol strock isn't even a word

im not wasting my time on a n4rrate word

100 man roster

im objectively better than you at English

you are using google translate

also I didn't lose the argument because all you're trying to do is change the subject to me making a typo lmao instead of talking about Aspas

no its just what the fuck is a strock or a stock bro neither of them makes sense lmao

the overall message was still understood despite me saying "of" instead of "if" since you corrected me

but wtf does "you give me a stock" or "you gave me a strock" even mean

C by far because its the only team that actually has different roles

u keep just bringing up an obvious typo instead of actually making a point about the original post

im not speaking to someone whos replying through google translate and obviously doesn't speak english

its obviously a typo and i edited it

but your grammar is terrible and you are struggling to form a sentence

"u just gave me a stock" what does that even mean lmao are u using google translate

"currently disputed" thats my point bruh do u even speak English

bro lost the plot

that made no sense

its not really undisputed if u have to dispute it

bro thinks stats are everything

stats aren't everything

always has been a baiter always will

bro lost the plot

what

TH 1 map away from Shanghai and a 4 rounds away from Champs
EDG 1 series away from winning champs then making bangkok final
Derke and Boaster 1 series away from being 3x
GenG 1 map away from being 2x

whats ur point

ur just naming things he was close to winning

"calling isn't the best"

his calling won them 2 trophies so I think it's good enough

its hard for people to analyze an igl and what he does for the team unless you actually understand how a pro team works which 99% of people don't

whats everyones favourite anime

Rossy is good and joined LEV