I totally agree

you dont have to read it you know, just posting my thoughts and helping some people understand it in a different way beside

sen win both
eg lose
g2 loss
loud no qualify
4 spot alpha

which yes makes sense but only if you already understand the win by 2 rule and whatnot

that is the best choice as of rn

no you are smart, that is exactly it

could also be nrg lose sen win g2 win and map difference decides

or

could also be c9 lose sen win and map difference decides

or

could even be kru lose sen win and map difference decides

or

etc

yeahhhhhh :)

Kru has set the course now of how sen could still qualify and it isn't looking to bad

Obviously Sen must win both their games against Loud and Furia which should not be to hard since Loud looks bad but then again every time the team Sen has to play loses before their match and looks horrible ends up coming back and having a god game and beats them. (not making excuses as sen also has been missing a lot of their shots)

either way its up to sen to win both, it still does not need to be a 2-0 in terms of maps but it definitely cannot hurt.

if sen do beat loud now it will mean that no matter what loud will not be able to qualify as they will not meet the 2 win requirement

that leaves EG to take the last spot in omega, so long as EG loose to NRG which I would say is pretty likely, given how things have been I am not to sure. If NRG does not beat EG then that spins off a whole new win factor that I dont even want to think about right now but will post if enough people actually care enough and want to know.

Now that EG would also not be able to meet the 2 win requirement team alpha would get an extra slot for playoffs leaving it down to most likely G2 and Sen (I say most likely because again there are some slight other alternatives like NRG or cloud9 some how going 4-2 or 3-3 and a chance that KRU could go 4-2 which would mean a lot would come down to map differential which is important then)

Anyways so long as Sen win their 2 maps it would come down to G2 and whether or not they will win both their games against MIBR and loud. again I would like to say loud will win or be better by then but there is no guarantee. Still there are plenty of chances and nothin is solidified beside Lev.

Side note:
I know I am only talking about Sen as they are the team I support but I am happy to do other teams win factor and I try not to be biased. I personally think sen should not qualify and get some much needed rest and strategy so that come chaps they could actually win as the constant playing never lets teams have proper time to win all 3 majors and even helps to explain why Fnatic couldn't win all 3 as people just got use to how they played.

TLDR:
https://www.vlr.gg/337289/how-sentinels-make-playoffs

I got you

same guy who committed first on my last thread, you obsessed with me or something? I dont want you man 🤣

I made thread here for anyone who is confused about how sen can still qualify as I see a lot of this must happen when that's not the case

https://www.vlr.gg/336726/ways-sen-can-still-qual

For this game KRU vs Loud:
it doesn't really matter the important game was G2 losing to lev. All this game does is decide which direction sen will lean to in terms of options.

1 option:
Kru beat loud, that will lean us towards the option of alpha having a 4th spot as it would lean towards loud not getting 2 wins

2 option:
Kru loose to loud, this will lean more towards kru and g2 going 3-3 while sen go 4-2

Overall both options each have there own risk but I think it is more likely that kru loose their next 3 games and g2 loose at least 1 more while sen win their last 2
option 2 also gives sen more leeway if they lose another game like to loud as we already are expecting loud to get 2 wins in this option and then it would be down to map diff between kru g2 and sen as they all will most Likly be 3-3

option w does however mean that if the win their 2 and at least g2 loose one more they will move on regardless as they would be 4-2 and g2 would be 3-3 or even 2-4 but if they go 4-2 as well it would come down to map win or rounds.

again it is just to soon to decide right now but I hope this helps so that as we move further on we will all understand which option is best.

That is whole other point to which is maybe they shouldn't go to Shanghai and get to prep like all these other teams did because they haven't really gotten a break to really rework things.

I dont think MIBR or Furia will win even 1 game this split

he got me good

cool just wanted clarification, thank you

Can't teams only have one import/international player from a different region? I am not sure of the rules but somewhere along the road I picked up that thought

Its bad out here man, the system is failing us and causing people like him to think NRG is good 😬

thank you, I appreciate it

you think that buddy, I hope your bronze lobbys are good to you today 👍

Also

https://www.vlr.gg/314637/nrg-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w3

https://www.vlr.gg/303088/nrg-esports-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff-sf

its not mandatory but thanks for the useless comment ig?

BASED (I am totally not biased what so ever)

After watching today and seeing all the Madrid Micky mouse tournament stupidity I started to wonder which year was more competitive. It is a hard thing to judge and like most things on this site I am sure there is no right answer. I would argue though that last year a lot of teams changed their roasters a lotttt, not just sen. this caused new dynamics and even language barriers that took. while to move past. I think given how most of the EG players who won last year are all bottom fragging for their teams kind of shows this. I think teams were so unpredictable even more then now and trust me they still are now that it allowed for teams like EG to win it all or KRU to go on a LCQ run of the century or even NRG to lose to the likes of billi billi. I am not saying it's perfect now but I think it only gets better and I do believe some if not most teams now could definitely beat the old EG winning roaster. Even sen started to beat PRX heard in scrims the second they added johnQT. Either way the games changes and we will never know but I wouldn't start calling things Micky mouse tournament regardless as they are hard to win regardless and you can't compare the teams now vs the teams before.

Lastly quick side note but you act like Sen should not have won but if they didnt go no NA team as of then would have so just be happy NA took it home. Also EMEA was decent then and I feel like they have only gotten stronger as each team is now pretty even with each other. ANd Pacific is definitely stronger as DRX look great and PRX are coming back into form while also the new additions of GenG and team secret are helping to grow the area as well. I know a lot of you hate sen but I don see any other team right now besides them being able to win shanghai (I mean how they were at masters Madrid not now)

(Messed up the tittle repost)

Which they will given the match ups

I mean even that's still not guaranteed is all I am saying and it does now rely on other teams. Just listing the most Lilkly possibility's as I saw some people wonder and some slight misinformation going around about them needing to win both games 2-0 on maps as well.

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idk but that was the whole point of this thread so why comment to begin with if you dont care

no they dont actually lol that was my whole point above because I have been seeing that everywhere and its not true. it helps but it doesn't mean end all be all.

fair enough

basically yeah but that's not enough but it is all they can do

you did not read allat in 10 seconds dont even pretend like you know if its hopium or not. its just straight analytics and numbers until the end where I just gave a take.

Before the loss to EG which is crazy, it was still all up to their wins to decide. Now it's up to the wins and other teams. There are many options as of right now but based off tomorrows games that will set the win conditions for them. For all of these I am assuming C9 and NRG win the rest of their games and I think C9 will be #1 seed since they have the easiest road as C9 has to play the 2 worst teams so lets say they end up 5-1 and NRG has to play EG and 100 Thieves which I would have said would be easy but given their loss to Lev compared to Sen loss to Lev both those teams could beat them or at least cost them a map which would make C9 on top. I say NRG end up 5-1 or 4-2 but still #2 seed.

Option 1:
KRU lose to Loud, Lev, and 100 thieves which seems completely possible to me as I do not this KRU are good at all and have been riding easy as of right now so I say in this scenario they end 3-3

G2 will most likely lose to Loud and Lev but win over MIBR as I think Loud will qualify and kick back into gear moving forward. This will put G2 at 3-3 as well

Then and only then if sen wins their next 2 games then they will be 4-2 and move on

meaning #1 seeds are C9 and Lev #2 seed are NRG or Sen and 100 thieves and #3 seed are NRG or Sen and loud

Option 2:
Lev beats G2 and Kru putting them at 3-1 and 2-2 as of now

Kru also still loses to 100 thieves putting them at 3-2

G2 can still win to MIBR putting them at 3-2

now the thing here is only one of the 2 Kru or G2 need to lose to Loud which will put either Kru at 3-3 or G2 at 3-3

also NRG beats eg which seems like a gimme

so long as sen win both games moving forward them loud, MIBR, furia, and EG do not meet the 2 win requirement and the their 3rd spot will go to alpha meaning nrg c9 sen and g2/kru depending on who loses to loud.

these are just the 2 most possible chances in my mind given who we think will win just based off what we have seen but as this week showed anything can happen. nrg and c9 both lose giving the chance for sen to be #1 seed and just as quickly sen lost and became last. things happened and there are still so many chances for sen to make it or not. either way it could be through an extra 4th slot for alpha or g2 and kru losing or even come down to map diff if g2 or kuru tie with sen 3-3 or 4-2. So dont go saying they or anyone else are out yet besides furia and MIBR 🤣

as for sen today, they were bad I will admit. A lot of it came down to how bad their aim was today as I feel like their strategies were not to bad and just couldn't be excited because of whiffing. Especially on bind where they had it down and just choked. I dont think the team needs to be posting that they dont deserve to make it to playoffs. that's a bad mindset to have and while yes they have been inconstant by either dominating or choking a lot. all of their games have been very closed compared to some like NRG. they aren't playing the best but they aren't playing bad. I still put them very high overall as they have proven what they can do when they got their shit together compared to some teams. Come back to this to laugh if im wrong I can take it but if I am right you better give praise instead. dont just hate when someone gets it wrong and ignore when they were right because you were wrong. I dare anyone who has read this far to post what they think will happen and we shall see.

Sorry for allat feel free to skip :)

Let the pros do the pro shit you just stick to watching n0vi and acting like your team has a chance.

talking about roster changes half way through a season when they have already won a masters and when zellsis has proven to be a bit support for the team for mid rounding and team moral and sacy has provided experience and amazing support. Now I do think sacy won't be on the team next year but that doesn't mean he isn't good, just not the best.

Like I said, now sit back, shut up, and watch them win

Why does he always sound like kermit the frog when he is coming through a mic 🤣🤣🤣

love him btw but its so funny to me

Now that I got your attention

Only one half in and here come all the little kids and sen haters acting like its over and everything sen has done up to this point is a fluke and a lie or was lucky. Shut up and sit down because im sure half of y'all teams you support are doing worse and you are just lashing out because you have nothing better to do then sit there and watch.

all good all good, you too

if you even read above I replied as a joke to something else. dont use your brother as an excuse to start calling or implying people are autistic. I know you must be one of the kids I am referring to based off the fact that you have to maturity to understand that especially if your brother is.

maybe you need to go outside and learn how to speak to someone because you are just straight up a dick. I know a lot of it is jokes but some kids on here are dead serious.

you are right I am so sorry, in the last 52 seconds I have changed my mind. they are the only undefeated team right now, what was I thinking. KRU winning it all.

Very confused where all this glaze for them is coming from. They are a joke and have only played the 3 worst teams below them. not a single team has lost to the teams they beat yet so how are they so above everyone else? they will be last in groups mark my words. Some of y'all can't see past the numbers right in front of you and use some logic.

I dont think KRU has been challenged only faced the more shit teams from where I have rated them

Alpha:
Sen
Cloud9
NRG
G2
KRU

Omega:
Lev
100 Thieves
Loud
EG
Mibr
Furia

Overall:
Sen
Lev
100 Thieves
Cloud9
NRG
loud
G2
KRU
EG
Mibr
Furia

especially crashies and victor, with the bathroom comment that they tried to pretend wasn't them to the Fns glaze that gets to their heads. They think they are the best but they simply are not, they are average the team they were on before was just good and even then if we are using sen shitalkers logic, it was old val and less competitive and Micky mouse tournaments that they won. which I dont agree with but hat is what all these vlr little kids would be saying

man thinks he's on the team

Aspas is one of the goats

Lev is better then nrg

som and fns glazed nrg hard

sen team diff lev still (Aspas had a life game)

tex and com still suck

sen will win split 1 come back to this and see

I saw more, HES BAD! 🤣🤣🤣

What I said^^^

I am sorry but watching zekken play on raze and even asuna. he still is not good on raze, he can just aim. He does not know how to use the util but need to see more

they have been non stop playing and then couldn't practice at all with there igl when tf would they have come up with new ideas, mean while 0 thieves have had months, think before you speak

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