Derke is lurking in FNS' chat all the time
I think he might have a lot of respect for him
| Flag: | Mexico |
| Registered: | June 16, 2022 |
| Last post: | November 7, 2025 at 7:19 PM |
| Posts: | 6812 |
Derke is lurking in FNS' chat all the time
I think he might have a lot of respect for him
You're acting like Derke doesn't already know Yoru.
He had one of the highest stats at champs 2024 playing only Yoru
It's only for my own entertainment ^-^
Imo Leaf is the best NA duelist, only issue is that his team needed a great sentinel more than they needed a goat duelist
He's played jett and raze at a high level in the past--i think his team just kinda decided to put him on perma neon/jett
When I talk about richest orgs I mean the orgs with the most money to spend.
SEN is the only profitable org in NA, specifically because they don't have a league or CS team draining their cash reserves
they were never close to bankruptcy; the balance sheet was not positive fs but Rob Moore has a net worth of $200 million USD. He could've and probably did bail them out many times
Easiest are 1. Mumbai and 2. Tokyo
Hardest are 1. HK and 2. Singapore
Duelist - Zekken
Controller (IGL) - Valyn
Flex - Ethan
Initiator - Leo
Sentinel - Leaf
I only find it fun to make rosters that could theoretically exist import restrictions included
Just be honest with them
I took into account 4.1 mil for other staff, Housing realistically only costs like <1 mil total for all 5 players (max 250k a year per player which is being very very generous assuming they're living like royalty)
I doubt they have that many employees, 4.1 accounts for at least 41 employees working at an average high income salary of 100k a year doing anything from marketing to accounting to analysts
not even gonna complain about the correction, it helps my argument xD
If we take the champs 23 bundle as a reference: https://esportsinsider.com/2023/12/riot-games-valorant-esports-finances
Within a period of a single month, players spent a combined amount of ~22 million USD on the Champs bundle
Here's what we know:
-Riot takes a 50% cut of all VCT Team Capsule sales.
-We know that of all the bundles, SEN sold the second-most after PRX from a riot tweet a while back.
-Taking into account that sales on the champs bundle would've been lower if it wasn't limited edition, and that not everyone is a SEN fan, let's assume that a single month's worth of sales for the SEN bundle provides just a fraction of the champs bundle. Furthermore, the team capsules aren't available year round, they're available for about 7-8 months.
As a lowball estimate: let's say a single month creates $2 million SEN bundle sales, multiply that by 8, and a single year brings SEN $8 million USD of revenue (50% of $16 million USD, the other half goes to riot).
With the knowledge that the highest Valorant salary to be leaked was Yay's 60k a month on Bleed (~0.7mil a year), we can safely assume that SEN makes drastically more money from their bundle sales than it costs to keep their roster.
Once again, SEN only has a valorant team, apex team, halo team of the 3, valorant salaries are comparatively a lot higher. Let's assume SEN is paying their players the highest possible salary, (0.7 mil a year) and is paying even like 0.2mil a year to each of their 3 apex players, that's 4.1 mil dollars in player salaries (i doubt the halo players are making much). maybe paying their other non-player staff costs 6 mil. That adds up to ~10.1 mil a year in expenses and ~8 mil in revenue from bundle sales
even then, taking into account SEN society and their jersey sales, SEN would still be breaking even and still have a lot of money saved up from Rob moore's personal bank account to sign whoever they want
EDIT: (60k a month is not 2 mil a year)
SEN - Only in 2 Esports, has overwhelmingly less expenditures than other, bigger orgs and makes a lot more in terms of revenue from merch sales, and of course bundle sales
G2 - In multiple esports and has a lot of cash to burn, but isn't profitable; will be forced to spend a lot of money to guarantee they don't lose their VCT spot next year though, since it will bring in a lot more money than it will cost to sign a big name
NRG - Rich org, rich owners, wasted millions of dollars on an OWL league spot and has a horrible track record of financial decisions. Multiple sponsors but also definitely not profitable
100T - Hoodies bring in cash, nadeshot makes sure to keep the business running at all costs, which results in a lot of layoffs and periods of low spending--but as a testament to how much money they're able to spend despite that they sign some big names occasionally like Cryo or Boostio.
C9 - broke org, lost a lot of money from a crypto deal same as TSM. Had money but now is forced to make budget roster after budget roster
EG - New owners, but still clearly can't afford anything beyond the scraps that other teams leave behind--lucky to be in a region with rich t2 talent
fuck it. making tihs a post
Monterrey is closer to Illinois and texas server than LA
LATAM teams can still scrim NA tier 1 teams while there
Yes. the internet cables are a little wonky, but ExitLag fixes that
Valorant isn't really a game that rewards spraying at a high level
Alfajer is a good choice
Primmie, Aspas, Scourge, Flor, and strangely Tarik (his hospitable flicks are genuinely impressive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFP3jP4nyx0)
koalanoob is a top 3 awper in NA but besides that he has a shit raze and neon. there are easier duelists to slot in who have more standardized meta agent pools
Sym is the real prospect here
im a bandwagoner dude im just here for seven
Solo brim on bind only works in ranked tho i feel like. I don't see any teams running solo brim without viper nowadays
agreed
Brim has been relegated to the same role as harbor - never good as a solo smokes and only good in combo with viper
so true trembolona bro
stand strong patriot
Support M80 please man's literally playing for his life
He got those Los Zetas connections, they broke him out bc they bet on M80
yeah, i want what's best for them but its not looking hopeful if they got diffed by murizzz
Johann 'SEVEN' HERNANDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ
Riot already said they will be able to next year, they just won't be able to ascend to vct if they win
nAts has no buffs or debuffs,
man is the embodiment of stoicism
oh, i thought he posted himself shirtless or something
I agree that Icy is a good player, but it's undeniable that there are better players than him
He's good, he fits the system, but can anyone deny that there aren't other players that would fit the system the same if not more than him + frag out in the process?
Reduxx turns 18 mid season. and my statement specifically said that florescent is probably not gonna get picked up by a t1 team next year, but maybe a t2 team
you don't need to be 18 to play in t2 and he turns 18 mid season anyway
Rossy is the most underrated player in NA imo. it's just hard with the competition he faces
you said you're asc right? wanna q i need a duo rn everyone has school tomm
those are called catwalks irl
that one is at an angle so there's more horizontal space to hide in and therefore harder to spam, all it does is give them space to hold backsite and flood retake. it's the same mistake as smoking stairs on A site sunset
I'm not talking about his e ability, i'm talking about his c ability. Omen smokes and harbor E wall both last 15 seconds, but harbor's cascades last 5 seconds each
the bridge idk what its called for some reason