One can argue Acend and Sen never lost on their way to their title that's they didn't need to play all teams, while optic lost twice

It's easy to pull stats to suit a narrative

I still think Gambit are the best team to ever win it, when watching them at their peak it felt like no one can stop them
Though Optic are for sure great I never got that feeling from them

Dapr can Sova too and Kanpeki Sage thats an option

Good but not winning a masters good, maybe top 4 at most

fair enough

1. Champions Acend v Gambit (3-2)
   • Final Game of Year, All 5 maps, 3 Close maps in that series
2. SEN v FAN (3-0)
   • May seem onsided but two maps were OT and final one 13-11; no maps dropped, first LAN
     3.Optic v Loud (3-0)
   • Different international team in finals, 2 OT maps
     4.Gambit v ENVY (3-0)
   • One close maps, Gambit just felt to dominate the whole time in my opinion

Thoughts?

we are shxt but im still a SEN fan because of Sick

Agreed

Zombs just Twitted all he'll about to break loose

Oh I see interesting to know

Was bind SENS perma ban? I thought it was accent

You complained that they never won anything, just he pointed out they won something and you still trying to be bitter

Poor production; quality gameplay though

They aren't even in current masters and they're still everyone's talking point, they're in people's head rent free
Let's appreciate the quality of teams we're seeing this masters and let them be

Don't forget Nivera

He took on the role this VCT

Rent free

Optic have had roster changes. And haven't won anything yet

COPIUM

B overall

Who is getting dropped IF this is true

I mean there was a time when Astra wasn't in the game and Zombs was still playing the game...

Rent free

I mean a match is still on going what you want them to do?

They won champions running Beta comps

Wardell for who? They're quite solid as they are

Haven't seen 100T play so cant really say, it would all he speculation.
From what I've seen it's gotta be Zander, he really putting V1 back as top tier 1 team again, they cruised through the qualifers
OR cryo, Xset have always been good but with his fire power they look really good

Bro why you so angry?? Just wait until they play and whatever happens will be results of their efforts

I mean if they play on Friday and are not playing the rest of weekend it's fine. It's not like they gonna be live reviewing the matches right there and then

Ah yes because they should be having a 24hour practice session ... you guys understand people can practice and have life's afterward