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Why Pro Valorant will get boring with Agent Comps
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Hey yall, this time I want to talk about the future of Valorant team compositions, something I hinted at in my last talk. Namely, what I’m going to be discussing is how the composition of Jett-Fade/Sova-Kay/O-Killjoy-Smokes might start to take over the maps of Valorant because of the latest patch 5.12.

First, we have to start with the Chamber nerfs. In my opinion, this completely killed the agent. By making his trap not have a global presence, and reducing his tp range, you severely nerf his capability to keep up with the other sentinels. Add to his op nerf, while still remaining at 8 ultimate points, I don’t think he’ll see much play. This is also due to Killjoy being absolutely broken because of the new patch. I went over this in my last post, but in case you missed it, KJ’s ult has more HP, and the nerf to utility damage on non-players means that only 2 non-ultimates can destroy it now, one of them being Kay/O’s molly. This will probably lead to KJ being played on almost every map (the new map is still unknown but it could also be a KJ map, in which case every map will be KJ-friendly).

With these changes, multiple things are thrown into the mix. First, the initiator meta is shifted greatly in favor of Kay/O, and away from Breach and Skye, since he can destroy the KJ ult, and he can suppress KJ util on sites. Secondly, the OP meta will have shifted back to Jett, since KJ will be much better than Chamber on all maps. This will lead to Jett-Kay/O-KJ being played on every map. Throw a Sova and/or Fade into the mix for info, and proper smokes, you end up with this:

Ascent: Jett-Sova/Fade-Kay/O-Omen-KJ, A comp that is already being run, and where this comp originated. Sova and Fade might be interchangeable, since Sova’s ult can destroy KJ’s ult still, so some teams might op to have Sova, but Fade has shown incredible value on the map. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some teams opt for a Sova-Fade comp or even triple initiator. I would also pick Omen over Astra simply due to the pistol rounds now favoring Omen way more than Astra now due to the ability to buy lights-flash-smokes

Fracture: Jett-Fade-Kay/O/Viper-Brimstone-KJ, This might be controversial, but I don’t think Breach will be as viable on this map anymore. Already we have seen comps without Breach on Fracture in the past, and they have worked incredibly. FPX, now Navi, and previously DRX ran comps that did not have any Breach and they were considered the two best Fracture teams at that time. Substituting a Kay/O for Viper might also be viable for extra control. Brimstone to counter KJ ult will probably be run too, even if we are seeing more Omen nowadays.

Pearl: Jett-Fade-Kay/O-Astra-KJ, This is a comp that is currently run by many teams, and I don’t expect it to change. With how necessary an OP is, especially on B site, I expect Jett to stay, and you can do a lot of cool things with Astra ult combined with KJ’s. We’ve seen Sova on this map, but I don’t think it can function without a Fade realistically, so I’m picking Fade here.

Haven: Jett-Fade-Kay/O-Omen-KJ, This is also a pretty common comp, just substituting Kay/O for Breach to adjust to the changes. Kay/O hasn’t been played a lot on this map, but that’s mainly because Breach has just been that much better, and the introduction of Fade took out the need for Skye to be played on this map. I also see Omen being the primary smoker on this map, since now you can buy flash-smokes-light shields for pistol, and there are really good positions to flash from.

Icebox: Jett-Sova-Kay/O-Viper/Harbor?-KJ, I’m sorry but Kay/O is just too good on this map to pick the new Sage over him. Not only does Kay/O solidly counter KJ, but Viper as well. And since the sites on Icebox are already pretty cramped and small as they are, a Kay/O ultimate literally forces defenders off the site completely, guaranteeing a safe plant. Sage, with her new wall, will probably have to compete with KJ if anything, and Kay/O will probably remain meta. Harbor might be a viable pick on Icebox, with pushing op’s off angles, and helping take sites aggressively, since Icebox is attacker-sided, but we’ll have to see. Rest of the picks should be self explanatory.

Now for the deviation:
Split: Raze-Omen-Cypher/KJ?-???-???, Split is a real toss-up for me and is the only map that has decent variation in my opinion. This is, for one, due to Raze being too good to not pass up on, and also because there are many ways to play this map. Here are the possible meta combinations you can make:

Raze-Fade-Breach-Omen-Cypher
Raze-Initiator (Not Sova)-Omen-Viper-Cypher/Sage
Raze-Jett-Omen-Sage-Cypher/Viper

Keep in mind changes to split are being made, which is why I don’t have Sage in my top comp (since mid might get reworked heavily) but you can already see the issue here. If 4/7 maps follow the same sort of team comp, the game will be repetitive and stale, and might even throw the game itself off. Think about it really quickly. The comp of Jett-Fade/Sova-Kay/O-Smokes-KJ is an attacker sided team comp inherently, which makes sense considering it was started on Ascent, a notoriously defender-sided map. If most of these maps were to bolster this composition, along with Icebox being an inherent T-Sided map, the game would start to swing to being attacker sided as a whole, which could throw off the feel of the game and make the overall viewing experience rather boring. You'll roughly know how they’ll retake, you'll roughly know how they’ll attack, it won’t be as fun to watch.

This obviously hurts the game overall but nothing can really be done about it unless significant changes are brought to KJ and Kay/O to allow for other options on other maps, because right now, they are too hard not to pass up. Another thing is the issue that the Chamber nerf brings to Jett. Jett and Chamber go hand-in-hand, if one drops, another rises to fill the void of an op-er. The only map where an op might not be needed is shocker Split, which is coincidentally the only map where neither Jett nor Chamber were meta on, and the only map that would show agent diversity according to my model.

Sure this is all heavy speculation, but you can’t deny that the implementation of this comp is already happening. Previously, in Champions 2022, the “meta” comp for Pearl varied between the comp of Neon-Fade-Kay/O-Astra-Chamber, or Fade-Kay/O-Astra-Viper-Chamber. Fast forward to now, in the Off-Season, many more Pearl compositions consist of the traditional Ascent team composition, Jett-Fade-Kay/O-Astra-KJ. If you don’t believe me, go to recent Tier 2-3 tournaments, I highly recommend checking out the NSG Lockdown Opens 2 & 3, VRL MENA Off Season, and the VCT Oceania Tour, and look at the most picked agents, then compare that to Champions 2022. Sure the meta shifts all the time, but this time I don’t know if it’ll be good.

If you made it this far, thanks, and hope you have a great holiday season. Feel free to add your thoughts, I'll prolly turn this one into a yt video too so I would love feedback on my theory. Till next time I feel like overanalyzing Valorant out of boredom. cya

I will only be seeing official circuit where GE participates as far as Indian teams are concerned. Orgs cannot understand simple things have huge emotional attachments and their ego is as big as burj khalifa while achievements are literally determinant of a skew symmetric matrices . Cannot understand rank grind importance,and whenever asked players flex their experienc... lil bro you get shat on playing matches against apac real teams who are you advising to ? .Never ready to accept,maybe our methods are wrong. Blame talent pool meanwhile 14y 16y radiants crying to get an org. Rnt is good atleast they dont cry on twitter and yt. Dreams on winning assension 🤡

This is the condition of top 6 SA teams-
Rest 7 countires ( Afg sri lanaka bangla pak afganistan nepal bhutan) = 0 orgs
India -
Vlt- playing 5 not decided (wasting deadly 10 there)
OG- no roster announced… leaked one looks good on paper ( last hope)
Rnt - At least actually grinding but indian players still no rank grind.
Gods reign- An ex cs indian pro has ego of mountain does not even want a coach while he is finished player in valo
Enigma - Roster not announced
RGE - took a pak player who cannot even scrim in playable ping cannot relocate 🤡 no sgp visa if qualified by fluke 2 16 y Sea guys ( good investment but this year it will not work)

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I think u r missing one team 🥺

NANANANANANANA HEY

nanananana nanananana heyyy

Oh ok

8 round difference maybe

Close enough 🐐

Kekw

My g Rawfiul doesn't deserve this shitass team frfr
Tesseract and Rawfiul should join someone else they are stuck with these inconsistent bots
Ik he played the shittiest game of his life but be real guys everyone knew Enigma doesn't stand a chance against heretics

My man be performing in every single series , been there in TOP 5 APAC Leaderboard for a long time now
But still him and tesseract are losing because of those bots

Then get ready to see miracle coz it's bo1 at best
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Did they?

Bleed ex-ceo
https://www.vlr.gg/112245/bleed-academy-vs-chill-cord-bleed-summer-open-ubr1

Indonesia: noxy
Thailand: patiphan
Philippines: tesseract
Singapore: M
Vietnam: n1zzy
Malaysia: aduka
Korea: foxy9
Japan: tenn
China: zmjjkk
Australia: minimise
India: antidote (if oping otherwise SkRossi)
Hong Kong: siufatBB
Taiwan: w1nner

Who is SkRossi? For the blind, he is light. For the hungry, he is bread. For the sick, he is the cure. For the sad, he is joy. For the poor, he is the treasure; for the debtor, he is forgiveness

Americas : EG, mibr
EMEA : GAINTS, bbl
PAC : TS, rrq

Lol

Haven

Americas- NRG (idk about Americas Ascention teams but is G2 making a team for NA Ascention?)

EMEA- NAVI (idk all the good players from EU are mostly in league + does MENA have chance for qualifying coz there looking good )

PAC- GE (bleed only if no edg)

Can Chinese team play in Pacific Ascention? Coz I'm pretty sure they don't have challengers tournament as of now

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I'm just gonna copied it from the other thread because I wanna hear what your guys' thought in this

Okay I'm gonna play devil's advocate here, but I think this roster is going to crumble hard.

The last time we see 6 players in one team was vision striker, they always regarded as one of the top teams from KR but they always dropped the ball in international tournaments (even though it turn out well for them in the next year but it's because they ditch the 6 man thing). 6 players really never worked at all in any esports that use 5 players in a game, let alone 7 players that GE is currently doing.

Also the fact that their players are from different part of the world that have different cultures and speak different languages, pair it with the fact that there's gonna be multiple role clashes, there's a high chance that this roster is gonna be dead on arrival.

But if they manage to overcome everything I've just said before, I think they're gonna be a solid mid table team with their peak being qualifying for international tournaments.

Ok then I had wrong information xd

Ayrin Canadian and I think ban have dual citizenship so kr maybe?

I don't think so , i don't think he was even in top3-4 india

Csgo?

1066

Ge

But prx has 2 sg 2 indo 1 MY but they have sg flag tho

Pinoy among us 💀

That was there pubg mobile logo xd

There old logo was better in dota2 csgo ow