look i love jinggg he's a great player but his agent pool is fairly limited to raze or off meta agents like sage phoenix or reyna. he'll still be able to fry on a majority of the maps since they need raze, but there are questions on how he will fit when prx needs to play icebox or breeze. like what are they gonna permaban breeze now and let icebox through to put him back on sage like he used to?? its just a question

i’m wondering the same thing. obviously jinggg is unarguably one of the best razes in the world but monyet is more flexible in terms of roles just from his ability to play smokes alone. prx coulda rlly cooked with more time with him but i guess we’ll just have to see if jinggg still got it in him

i feel like this might be different from comms he would need in pro plays. obviously he can speak english to some degree even back then but mid round when situations call for adaptive changes or expressing new ideas he still could’ve found it difficult to word things right when situations call for on the fly calling. this is just speculation of course most of us don’t know the whole story

i was fuming bc of this guy on youtube that legit still believed him to be a “clout merchant” even after his madrid performance. somehow ppl still find a way to hate tenz despite being one of the most likeable players and in the most wholesome relationship in the scene

idk about every other champions, i think they're trying to shift toward more swiss formats like madrid?

can’t rlly change much against a game with decades of history ingrained into basically generations of cultures at this point. val is gonna have to be out for alot longer than 4 years for the neckbeards to come out and cheer

if an eu team made playoffs in madrid it might’ve looked like this but i guess we won’t know till next event that happens in europe

i respect your list. if nrg has put in the necessary work the last couple months to iron out the kinks they can exceed this for sure

it was to give china more time to integrate their vct league its not pointless, and its gonna be shorter for the next seasons anyways

the phrase "relative to competition" alone should automatically put tenz as the highest peak in val history if we're really gonna go there

i think they're supposed to start earlier next season since this season mostly took longer for china to integrate their league

you missed the point entirely. you're claiming a trophy that was won under optic gaming. nrg never won anything

why are u acting like nrg didnt pick up the core of another team that won under a different name not nrg LMAOO if you're gonna clown sen's whole history at least stick to nrg's actual history which was nonexistent before they picked up optic and didnt even win under NRG

a 3-1 loss in 2022 is not "almost", and your relevancy comes from getting consistently slapped by BLG

so you're saying your team had 2 more years of opportunity to win more international trophies than sen...and still ended up with just 1??

consistent, yet yall had the same number of masters to show for it as the "laughing stock" who btw just got their next one yesterday. hope this helps :)

werent u the one yapping during sen vs nrg saying sen will never make a masters??? oof

calling it fraudulent is the biggest reason this take is not serious. it deals too much with "coulda woulda shoulda" narratives that at the end of the day didn't happen. complain about the kickoff format? cool! riot's changing it for the next year. does that equate to madrid being a fluke? absolutely not. the teams that won were in form at the right time they needed to be regardless of format and they earned their spot. thats it, prepare for shanghai and move on

if gen g can’t contain heroics then they deserve to lose.

this is a real masters tournament. no one-time lock in event, no "early days of val esports" narrative. gen g were just better at the end of the day

that map advantage look too strong for gen g ngl. sen’s map pool is not fleshed out enough yet but im still praying they find their stride to make it competitive

im actually happy for APAC if they do win, about time yall made your mark in val

i need him to start casting international events THIS YEAR please

karon's quote about loud alone gives him some recognition for this

very similar to sen's first game against loud where they get thrown off by a comp they arent used to playing. especially since barely anyone plays neon like miniboo id say it was a great learning experience that happily ended up w a win as well

wait for next year when they change it then, just dont watch the games if ur gonna complain

2-1 womp womp

tenz gekko is not what i had on my bingo card

i actually do hope a goat emerges tho, it would be great for the marketability of the game for people to hear of a player that maybe even transcends the game itself

agreed lowk

oh shit im sorry didnt see that mb, then i shall suggest an oldie

zombs clutch with a classic against TL on breeze champions 2021

ardiis 4k clutch against drx in champions 2022 followed by stax's multiple clutches in ot in the same game

i think their attack side needs alot of work too ngl, its just alot of other teams happen to be just as bad at attack enough for sen to rack up round wins on def

at least make the bait believable

something about the simplicity of nobody and Life makes their names rlly cool for me

nah this looks just as lost as their ascent imma be fr LOLLL

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all 3 on death watch

your attitude on all this braindead. this is literally what professional sports in general is all about the "best" wont always come out on top

ouch

we saw

that is crazy to say right before his 4k to OT

somehow she is still underrated by some people and it drives me crazy

Jenevieve/ Division

as an NA supporter, clown9 flairs do not deserve to speak rn

your whole list is reactionary

zikz is not the problem buddy

towards the end of a match where it does not affect the outcome whatsoever. there is a clear difference from how sen used their timeouts in the group stage + map 1 against g2 vs how they used it in the last 2 maps

my brother i said "running down A" as in no depth to their gameplan compared to when shit was actually on the line the first map they were essentially deathmatching a majority of it. and "holding timeouts" means that they DIDNT use them are you kidding

you clearly did not watch the same maps then with sen running down A on breeze literally 7 rounds in a row with neither coach even calling timeouts until later in the game

your post is literally less reliable than the the pros impression farming on twitter LMAOOO