And you can't do anything lol. Riot is Chinese company. And region got official just last year still. And scrims alone don't help in improving. You have to wait as long as china wants. Also they have already improved so fast. Lol they would beat most of pacific even without good macro.

And so what? Noone can do anything. Riot is basically a Chinese company and china is the largest eSports market by a lot. It would be stupid by riot to not try develop in there. So they have to give these slots to develop the region faster.

Bro they had such a intense match with trace. Biank I think was even ill and had to take tech pause time and again. And blg never got to play fpx cause of the format.

Bruh some rounds they lost. What a throw in some of those rounds.

I think at least team coordination and macro looked better in blg and even wolves. Fpx has great aim but worse macro and team coordination I think. They rely too much on life and autumn hero plays.

Do you guys think fpx is the 2nd best cn team? I genuinely think trace or blg and even wolves looked better at least team gameplay and macro wise compared to fpx.

And get a better igl and a good western coach along with a translator as well.

Does anyone have any idea how many 3v4 or high number advantages fpx has lost in this event? Whenever they get in number advantage it looks more scary for them lol.

Just scrims with apac won't improve your team gameplay. They are already many mechanically top players but valo isn't a solo game. And china lacks good igls and coaches.

Cause they play so bad as a team. Also tbh most of these teams rn are completely new except for team like edg. Also no one is complaining about individual player skills. It's just their team play and strats are too bad so people complain about the team.

Which map do you guys think is the worst map to watch as a viewer rn? Sunset gotta be on top in my opinion.

Bro individual talent or mechanical skills isn't the problem tbh. They need some better coaches for improving their strategic part and basic stuff.

Edg already has potential for top 5 even this year. They just need to improve their macro and mental a little.

Bro but some of the rounds they lose are so bad to watch. They just need better discipline bro like I think that is the easiest to achieve for them at least easier than upgrading their macro but still time and time again same basic problems

So aim or individual dependent. Only edg from china has some good macro but still are behind top global teams. China never gonna be contender with such macro.

Yeah kk teammates are still good. Especially when they are hitting back kankang will look average compare to them. It was just off day I guess also they are quite inconsistent except for chichoo and kk .

Lol after one year you start commenting back in vlr and it's about how kk isn't good lol. And crying saying it's facts bruh that way of hating is old now. Come up with something new. Tbh just say you are straight up hater bro at least you will have some respect that way.

Bruh lol Kang kang hasn't been using op much at all. You are thinking of Tokyo or champs I guess happens don't worry. It's your old age catching up. And as if texture or meteor didn't get setup lol. According to you it looks like more of team macro problem then individual problem. Just say you are kk hater and move on lol. No need to make excuses like that to hate.

Only when they are in momentum though. Too momentum based team. Also most vlr users I think have different understanding about what pure firepower means. Like they were calling edg 7th in terms of firepower lol. I think just based on pure firepower edg are top 3.

His rifling is so good now though. Never expect he would be #2 someday in rifle vs rifle win percentage even for a day of any event. Also split though he was creating so many rounds on his aim alone without much support.

Lol no way you said he got all recourses dumped for him. Man edg have played so much better even without kk fragging recently and kk has been avoiding op to reduce pressure on teams as well. Also he literally diffed every single geng player todaym see his rifle win percentage as well was #2 after tenz today. He literally tried to claw the game back but today other edg members were too bad especially in split.

Come on he got shut in breeze but especially he was doing everything in that split game. And yes he was the best player in server. And team got diffed not kk. Edg still were still behind technically compared to teams like geng.

Man hoping china regions develop fast or at least import some good coaches to improve their macro. Edg despite some good plays are still so behind technically. Cn would be so scary if they had better macro with some discipline as well.

Yeah also prx has looked so shaky this year. I think only edg when in momentum and sen among these Madrid teams are equal to geng in firepower.

Who do you think have been beat teams in terms of macro this event so far? In terms of firepower I still think edg sen and geng are top 3 but edg when are in momentum but can't decide the teams with best macro.

312 acs and 63/45/13 whole series. He also diffed every single geng player in performance. Man that loss must have hurt so bad. Tokyo edg flashbacks. Still my favorite player and team along with sen and zeta. Gonna support them forever.

Seeing the play till now sen has looked better tbh.

At least happy he has been playing well this event. After that horrendous sunset map start he is top 8 in terms of strats.

Edg was just too bad with defense tbh. Breeze has been one of geng week map but edg played really bad.

Who do you guys think is winning Madrid? I think sen has looked the best so far followed by geng. So in my opinion sen has highest chance to win this event. Cause they have looked so good macro wise and in terms of firepower as well.

They always suddenly look so lost bro after they lose momentum. It's like their mental is both strong as well as week.

Edg so bad macro wise or in terms of adapting. They need a better coach or igl tbh.

I think they should actually import some western coaches especially emea coaches to improve their macro. Still behind so much in macro. Also edg still isn't at the level of top global teams in terms of macro.

Edg geng sen KC are top 4 in my opinion. Prx just not been hitting back so out of top 5 rn

Edg would get so much better if they could improve their macro. I think they are top 3 team mechanically itw especially when all are firing.

Edg too when all of them fire tho and prx. These are the teams I can think of .

• it's streamed in their official yt and twitch channel. So Chinese can just use VPN. And also would like to ask if there is any Chinese or anyone using Chinese streaming sites to confirm whether the geng matches are streamed or not?

Cause na has more fans or more fans who are vlr users?

Bruh there was no need for this comment lol. You are just making geng fans look bad.

I am not questioning their usage tho just asking if anyone else doesn't like watching it or isn't fond of it. Pls learn to read properly.

Does anyone else hate watching Odin gameplay? I find it so disgusting to watch it even if my favorite team plays it. It's just so not fun to watch in these vct matches at least to me.

Also not trying to say they shouldn't use it or anything like that just asking if any viewer don't find it fun.

No he has been using op less and less nowadays. Even in china he rarely used it.

That's too long bro and he won't even be a rookie till then. Ad within 2 years I think even cn region will be better or be top Internationally.

Will be hard to see him in international lan unless jdg gets a better igl or ste goes to pacific to a top team like drx which doesn't seem to be possible. With teams like edg fpx trace blg even wolves and TEC will be hard to qualify for international.

Also you guys should stop such comparisons like with mako or tenz going on in forum. Karon will just get hate in future if he doesn't perform well cause of that overrating.

Tbh wait more longer cause mako is regarded so highly mainly cause of his consistency too and new year for valo eSports has just started who knows how mako or karon is gonna perform in future. Also mako is still way ahead of karon achievement wise just karon is in better form rn.

Might be similar to lock in which is called Micky mouse since Madrid is also a starting event and also 8 teams only so.

Bruh I don't know if people are making list of best technical teams or teams with best aim lol.

No way fpx is last if you consider aim alone lol. KC were getting aim diffed tbh. Narrate and berlin were the cause KC won.

Yeah currently but karon hasn't surpassed achievement wise tbh. Give him some time cause some of you are overrating karon so much.