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India already have a op crutch choker that can sometimes takeover games, why import a Finnish version?

Iirc he said he wont leave this season. But that is moot as its likely T1 will kick autumn after a frankly disgraceful season and go full korean

Rossy is 100% going back to NA after a great performance in T1, might as well use the remaining matches to choose which player is T1 keeping since their season is over anw

Jp did not deserve two teams. The other spot should have gone to OCE or sea(Boom/Bleed/Another Thai team) or even a fourth KR team.

Akshually they went to a champions and had a very memorable moment(the rope incident)

blud is from an alternate universe where US won in 1812

Warbirds is arguably one of the best coach in pacific. His anti strats were really good, the problem was his only world class player is Invy(and Jremy sometimes) with wildereo he could have qualified to champs ngl.

Massive TS L

That's exactly why they are low. Teams like PRX, Loud, FNC , DRX and EDG are very good in that tourney meaning EG was not that dominant. They even lost once in that tourney, something GENG and FNC didn't do in their win

They went 3-2 actually. But yes i thought they went 4-1 because i just remembered the BBL lost. So we are both wrong.

But assuming they have the same record(they did not) , that is no argument to say which league is more top heavy, and also kept in mind the woot patitek th never played in EMEA.

The rest of the things you say are just assumptions. Drx actually beat geng once unlike fnatic (that doesn't mean they are better mind you, but thats the only point of comparison we got) . Fut vs T1 is the only objective thing there as both teams run into Lev, and one of them finished 6th. But keep in mind T1 is 7th on the table are only in Shanghai because they, unlike any EMEA team can actually beat GENG.

BBL, VIT, TL is better than Talon RRQ and TS? According to whom? None of those teams will ever play each other and comparing them is just based on assumptions. Our only point of comparison is comparing when the teams they play which are PRX and Geng. Both teams have 100% win rate against emea teams(top teams mind u) , but Geng in particular have barelu above 50% win rate vs Pacific teams. Does it means Pacific midtable is better than EMEA ? Not definitively, but its certainly better than "everyone knows"

Im just happy benkai and blazeking (also polvi) performed today, that should shut those toxic haters that hates on the non Indian.

No rebuttal just name calling, classic.

Yes i watch emea , the schedule is nice for me to watch before sleep. If anything i don't watch most Americas match.

"MY EYE TEST SAYS EMEA IS GOOD" Is not a reliable way of determining a regions strength, it's biased and extremely unreliable. The fact you base your assumptions on that just show how uneducated you are, as anyone who have written any paper will know that eye test means nothing at all.

Geng is 3-3 in pacific, Prx also lost in pacific. Drx with the best record in pacific actually did not go to international event. To put this in perspective, Geng is 10-1 in international

If anything EMEA is more top heavy with TH with their roster instability still dominating most teams. Navi was crushed multiple times. KC fell ott. Fut plays too deranged to actually be a good team, i have no idea why fnc is crumbling.

Sure outside of MIBR and Furia, Pacific have the 4 worst team, but when the 7th placed team (RRQ) beats Geng, and the 6th(TS) stomped PRX the mid table is not that bad. I can see an argument that Americas is better in the midtable(but they have the 2 worst teams) but not EMEA

All im hearing is excuses. EDG beat PRX in madrid, but KC which is hyped to win the tournament and TH with home advantage couldn't. U seen how shit EDG is in Shanghai so thats a. Massive L

Fnatic(super experienced btw) won a total of 0 international game this season

TH only win outside of CN team is G2. (For what it's worth i think they are a decent team) edit : i forgot about 100t

Bleed with y0y also lost to global

0 playoff team in madrid , only beating cn and other EMEA team other than G2 in Shanghai lmao.

Emea won a total of 0 time against pacific this season

Imagine if we have MIBR vs Furia at the same day(the actual two worst team in franchising outside of china) and some bottom tier Emea teams. And we force sideshow to commentate all of them. Would be the best day in Valorant history

Kick off NRG was ok. Split 1 NRG speedran its way to the collapse part of a super team cycle and finished dead last in their group. They are not the same

Because its a massive upgrade compared to the previous roster? Any NRG fan would be happy that NRG actually plays like a solid team, they just lack firepower. Instead of the 5 dudes walkin to site style of last time this nrg looks much better

This roster have the same amount of win as GE last year with texture and monyet. And they still have half a season in a more competitive league and they achieved it with less budget. What more do you want?

Blazeking and Russ have the exact same rating in split1. Russ was igling sure, but this team is full of IGLs anyway. Funny thing about Blazeking is he has +15 fk/fd overall. He has the skill to takeover a game but also have extremely bad games. Russ is just consistently ok. It really depends on what you prefer i suppose.

Im just biased against an import even though he's technically not an import.

Roster getting nuked again 100%. Pity, lightningfast and blazeking are the only 2 player worth keeping and now 1 od them probably want go to leave. On the plus side they might go full indian then.

Blazeking actually needs PR training. Didn't he randomly swears in a interview?

But Mimosa is once again trying to get someone to lose their job. And considering blazeking is the best/second best player on their team this will be funny ngl.

I hope GE goes 5 Indians next year. Would help the SA scene and provide 2023 KC tier comedy.

Miniboo international winrate is 0%

This. Last year's roster could have competed if not led by absolute idiots. In hindsight, they have a masters winner, a regional winner who also finished 3rd Internationally, a top 8 champs player, the best/second best player of their team this year , Bazzi and Skrossi. If they are the second worse team with that roaster then they should either nuke the coaching staff or play for clout.

They cannot qualify with last years roaster then what chance do they have with p0lvi.(I dont get why they import him when garnets/stew or some korean/russian frying in the Japanese league is right there) might as well bring back Skrossi.

Meiy, Invy, Dep, Nats, Cloud, Aspas,Less this season

Hot take : Leo and Kang Kang this season arguably are the only ones performing to their teams standard respectively and are by definition held back.

Use your brain to read my post or #32 below me. Your refusal to read makes you exactly the target audience for mimosa

The fight was basically a misunderstanding that devolves into racism. Tenten thought flip is being racist to the Japanese (or korean by basically calling him to go back to anime. Its like saying the Japanese and the Korean are the same) , turns out he is calling him a weeb. It was horrible but with context it is not worth losing a job(probably a suspension or two) . Mimosa intentionally cut the context to farm outrage.

That mimisa prophet person on twitter is the worst. Blud is toxic but got someone to lost their job over online toxicity. He/she literally created the Geng/RRQ rivalry over some toxic fight between a Indonesian and a Korean. And he/she is also toxic, as shown by calling benkai a fraud.what a hypocrite.

Hazard was a top player for a longtime. Yay's career only last a year and a half. Also hazard played well in Belgium. And hazard was never the best in the game(thats still messi and ronaldo at the time). The comparison doesn't make sense

Lets start with the obvious : points

PRX, GENG are basically guaranteed a spot in champions through points. The only chance of both teams not making champs is if both teams finish outside playoff top 3. In that case only one of them will make it depending on who have more points. But lets be real that wont happen

DRX : Technically T1 and Talon could overtake DRX in points if both teams won all of their remaining matches and DRX loses all their remaining matches. But if DRX wins 4 more matches in league play or playoff they are basically guaranteed to go to champs unless PRX and/or GenG finish outside of the playoffs top 3. max point of their closest competitor : talon/t1 can get if they finish outside the top 3 is 10(if they finish top3 they are not considered for points)

So PRX, GenG and DRX are basically guaranteed to go to champions unless atleast 2 out of 3 of them completely fumbles the season.

T1/Talon/RRQ : they basically can only qualify through points if the top 3 are PRX,DRX and Geng. Points dont really matter for the other teams.

Playoffs qualification conditions :

Talon are basically guaranteed playoffs as they only need 2 more wins and the play DFM and Zeta

RRQ are likely going to playoffs as they get to play DFM and Zeta and 1 more match between drx, PRX and Talon to be guaranteed a place in playoffs. If they dont then likely there will be a tiebreaker with TS/T1

TS are likely going to playoffs. They need to win 2 out 3 matches between GENG (nope) , T1 and GE. The T1 match in particular is very important as winning it basically guarantees them a spot unless a zeta miracle happens.

T1 dont have a guaranteed qualification scenario as the max win they can get is 5. However if they beat secret and secret loses to geng/ge then they will have a tiebreaker with TS and whichever other team finish with 5 wins(likely RRQ)

Zeta and GE needs to win all their remaining matches

Dfm and Bleed are basically out

Tldr : PRX and GenG are basically guaranteed to go to champions. DRX are likely to go to champions. Talon are basically guaranteed a spot in playoffs, RRQ and TS are likely going to playoffs, T1 might make it to playoff. The rest probably wont make it.

The calling was excellent though. He outfragged munchkin in the last two maps btw

Are we watching the same talon? They can beat PRX

All igls should not touch omen anymore smh

There is no tier 2 chinese league to begin with back then, that was pre frachsining before there's a clear divide between tier 1 and 2. 2023 then came along and Whyz beats NRG. SR1 failed in tier 2 iirc. Also one of the best GC team in G2 gozen got 13-0 by some random tier2 team.

Its literally just racism and Chinesephobia

If flor was a man she would be playing in tier2/3. She would only be glazed by the chronically online people who actually pay attention to tier2 games

But sen barely beat geng. You know who destroyed geng? GE with Skrossi last year.

Skrossi>the world

Black magic, Chinese mafia, forsaken food poisoning, mercury was in retrograde, monyet cursed them, rigged by the 100t fashion mafia

But went 3-3 in apac. The rest of the world is a farmer's league, only sentinels is better than RRQ . The rest of the world is worse than RRQ

Do americas have better depth? Maybe

Emea? HAHAHHAHAH , no.
Pacific havent lost to emea at all this year iirc in any competition.

Did any non TH emea team even beat any other team from a region not called China?

Also the reason pacific is ahead is because riot doesn't own the arenas in Seoul so they need to pay for each day. This is a finance decision not a competitive one

Surely sooner or later the star might align enough that a team will simply gap the other teams for an event. It almost happened in Tokyo if EG did not have their miracle and FNC ended up facing PRX in the final. That would be a quick and easy 3-0. It certainly is possible if unlikely.

And why would CIS win count for EU? Gambit and NAVI/FPX are CIS not EU. Ukraine and Russia are not in the EU.

And if we are being strict neither is Britain. So EU only have 1 trophy.

Im surprised we haven't had a stomp final yet. Even FNC - EG had Eg reaching double digit in 2 out of the 3 maps. Surely we get a seal clubbing GF ala G2-TH lowers someday

China or apac. Probably to GE or Bleed

I read what you typed. It's just some if jt doesn't make sense.

I missed that Less is back in that case 6 is fair if a bit too high.

Kru is literally just you making excuses on their lost. We can say the same about DRX (they are just unlucky to run into a inform PRX and Geng) or Talon or any other team.

Also im not saying T1 should be higher, I'm saying RRQ despite me being a massive fan of them should not be in top10. RRQ have always been hyped up to be a great team in pacific since the end of last year split but they fail to deliver everytime. (A big part of it is they fail to deliver) so i wouldn't get my hopes up. They are way to unproven to be 8th. Yes they went 3-1, but they 2 of them is bleed and secret. And a top 10 team dont lose to GE even with a sub.

100t and PRX were 1 round away from switching fate. Prx just decided to troll and pick G2, thats why they have a big differential. Round differential is not really a good margin, otherwise T1 would be in the playoff not G2. Regardless the gap between the two of them is way too big.

Drx have better structures than FUT even with no Stax and with the new roster the firepower is almost equal to PRX and Geng. But doubting them makes sense.

Americas biased as expected. Kru is nowhere near that high when they are basically Americas DRX(did well the regular split but lose both qualification game) and where is DRX? 16 even though flashback has shown promise and stax has been under performing.

Both PRX and 100t completely failed to meet expectations and yet only one of them "collapsed" and only one of them (PRX) have a history of one stinker tournament a seasobln. And for the first time i doubt loud. It doesn't matter how good saadhak is, without less and aspas this team is not top 10. FNC still won Emea and they suddenly 13. (Granted the lost to fut was something) and even as i hype RRQ up are we seriously putting them on 8 because they beat Geng? T1 also beat Geng but they are in 20?

I think theres a unconscious bias because you want all the other top team of the other region to collapse so you look for signs of their collapse while ignoring the Americas team that are not doing well with simple "i trust this team"

Geng went 3-3 and lost to T1. Prx being the favorite coming in make sense.

You act like people are not rating geng highly pre madrid and PRX was not seen as the weakest team going into madrid.

FPX*

Im a PRX fan but im very happy for geng. Unlike Americas or to a lesser extend EMEA, pacific team supports each other. I would be as happy as if DRX or T1 or RRQ or even GE won

Both choked on finals though, But Karon got a second chance