Dephh. He isn't a horrible player/igl, he's just not suited to be in tier 1

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Name them for me and tell me how they get the site, that's when you realize the issue with sens comp and the way they play

I definitely think tenz on lotus was just his fault cause he just isn't comfortable on it, on icebox tho no amount of fragging wouldve won them the game. They have comp problems and chemistry problems on that map

And he was literally the weakest link of xset

With their team as long as they get better at map vetos and just play to their strengths, they could easily make top 6

If you think the org are braindead then I think you're the idiot here. The only reason they're still relevant is because the team over at sentinels are able to constantly garner attention from everywhere. The shroud pickup the pioneering of the twitter banter/toxicity (at least in Val) tons of content creators.
In terms of running an org there is no better in Val than sentinels. Theres a reason they were the only team that were locked in for a franchising spot

He stopped changing his sens and stopped taking caffeine. Slowly he's getting rid of the factors that cause his inconsistencies. Some people just have on days and off days and tenz is someone with weak health. If he could get in better shape and condition then he'll be able to become more consistent. I've seen huge gains in performance consistency ever since I started hitting the gym with a schedule and plan as well as removing sugar from my diet.

Because then you become reliant on the caffeine every single time. When the caffeine isn't there the fragging isn't there. It isn't the greatest thing. Him removing it is the first step in becoming more consistent. He needs to stop blaming crosshair mouse keyboard monitor resolution e.t.c.

On lotus sure but icebox was a massive failure by both dephh and sykko. I'm guessing they were banking on the fact that they would get lotus

Why are you making all these claims that just aren't true? There is no player in the world that doesn't respond well to depth of play. Loud isn't an individualistic team, if you can't recognize that fact then we have nothing to argue about as you clearly have no idea what the first thing about teamplay is.

I never said anything about first blood. First bloods are something that comes much later down the line. They need to focus on execs and adaptation and plying comps that compliment their players, somehow Sen manage to do great and insanely poorly at this. Some maps are amazingly well thought out for each player and have good adaptation. Others like icebox have the shittiest comps with 0 adaptation at all and yet somehow is still let through sens veto

THATS WXACTLY THE ISSUE 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
We've literally been saying that the style of team they are is an inconsistent one and it needs to change. Changing igls doesn't fix it but it sure as hell helps it as comparison to dephhs style where he can only do good when his team are compensating for the holes in his calls

Loud aren't the same at all. Loud have great adaptation and game plans that don't rely on their team fragging out but instead helps the team frag out, it's a huge difference.
Sen is a team that only does good and is only able to adapt when and only when their entire roster is fragging out which is a horrible model for consistency

So many igls have been able to get around the fact that their duelist isn't fragging my guy that's why they're the best, hell even igls like koldamenta have done it time and time again.
Fragging is reliant on how you're feeling and that can't possibly be something you rely on. Dephh relies on that to have a good game where his players compensate for his lack of skill IGLing, the fault is on dephh for not being able to create an environment where a specific player doesn't always need to be on his a game.
No amount of fragging wouldve won Sen that icebox game, the lotus game is a bit more in tenzs hands

Let us continue to point out comp flaws and lack of teamwork and proceed to attribute the loss on the fact that the duelist didn't "just click heads"

I'm not saying dephh did good, I'm saying that specifically wasn't necessarily his fault. It wasn't his mistake but it was fns' adaptation

You literally just stated why dephh was the problem and then proceeded to say "he isn't necessarily the problem"

No I definitely think it's a huge fault of dephh. He isn't cut out to igl like this in the top tier, he can't midround well enough nor frag enough. Not cut out for tier 1

The coach isn't the one who vetos it's the igls. That's what I'm thinking abt, sykko wustve come up with some sort of veto plan but I can't imagine it being this bad. Sen dont have a huge pool so playing for their opponents'weakness in my eyes is the last thing they wanna do

True we should be relying on something as uncontrollable as frags instead of relying on gameplan and actually vetoing for our good maps

Tbf execing a site with 4 ppl was in no way dephhs fault other than the slow style. Fns just always has really good reads against predictable igls like dephh.
Fns only has a harder time calling when he's playing international

Exactly, sykko can't come up with every single midround plan for dephh.
Dephh is such a mid igl it's crazy, he just doesn't belong on a tier 1 team, he was the weakness of xset

1 bad game and it's tenzs fault entirely for losing the game and for the poor veto

Sean wouldn't want to coach and sliggh wouldnt be an upgrade from sykko

They're trying to meta nrg, it just won't work. They need to play their good maps instead of picking their opponents' bad ones. Idk who came up with the veto plan but that has to have been the worst veto Sen could've played especially against NRG

Tbf tho with a better veto and having tenz on his game would've had it go 2-0 for Sen.
Why dephh so bad at the vetos?????

They threw so hard against Lev it isn't a crazy thing to think.
Clearly now we know it was all mindgames

I completely agree, the only effective harbor was drx v c9 and c9 literally had 0 adaptation and looked like they purposefully threw

THEY RAN SOLO OMEN ON LOTUS, you're stupid if you don't think that's a troll

Common FNC bandwagoner

Why are you so right

Why tf are they trolling against a team like leviathan and against Sen of all teams they're actually taking the game seriously.
Sen is the last team you should be serious against man

You haven't seen them play before have you?

I doubt nrg would make it with the way they're playing and their role issues

No one really has movement like him which is his identity so I don't think there is

Assuming that someone raped another based off of text messages and a vague audio clip is crazy

Bro is assuming

True

Sad that the best NA team so far is the team with 2 Brazilians so it ain't exactly impressive if they end up top 3 ☠️

Leviathan had a bad day and horrible veto.
Furia are the biggest upset team in VCT right now

C9 above MIBR bruh

Furia aren't above Lev they just won the map veto so it was over before it began. Taco also had a really bad showing today

They're not top 3, Lev are just really easy to upset due to a combination of consistency issues and map pool

I expected this and I'm a leviathan fan. Lev are the easiest team to upset cause of their inconsistency

Taco couldn't catch a break on all 3 maps

He's p cracked but taco had a really poor showing so ofc they'd lose to a team as good as furia. People really be underestimating SA

So far 6/6? However many games there have been gone 100%

Ah yea let's blame it on him being igl that's a good one

Lmao bro is so salty