well not this game, no Siufatbb at champs :(

Wolves can qual for playoffs if they win this and DRG loses to XLG?

Abyss was a close map, I would say if both teams at that time played each other 10 times it be a 50/50.

Maybe champion points can save them.

Verno CANNOT IGL, just go back to Aritizin. MIBR kinda reminds me of 2023 SEN, good players but need a better IGL.

It's pretty sad to see them go out like this, I actually like SiufatBB

Ok I can somewhat understand 100T/NRG but why C9???? They beat Furia and that was it....

Bro they got MIBR who were looking like crap at Toronto, KRU who's the most inconsistent team of all time (biggest wildcard). The rest of the teams made Roster changes every single split, so they don't have enough prac w/ each other yet, If they can beat G2/SEN then we can start talking because this whole year no team besides SEN/G2 could beat each other. They haven't lost to any other teams because thats how big the gap is. Ok I just checked SEN did lose to KRU but like I said KRU is a big willdcard that somehow wins those underdog games.

If KRU/100T were swapped with SEN/G2 then I would agree.

100T are looking good, but they still haven't proven themselves yet. Let me see how playoffs go. Right now their group is literally the easiest group.

Not even Aspas can save Brazil, he might go back on an actual non br team.

KRU was like top 6, they are no where near the best. But Yes 100T are looking very good.

I am not a 100T fan but no joke this is the best 100T roster and all it took was dropping Boostio wow

You're right GE would beat all of Americas thats why they are at LANS and winning trophies. They winning champs on god, skibidi.

Johnqt was the second best Cypher last year beside Benjy, so I believe in him.

They looked good at EWC and this split has been good so far.

Im a SEN fan, and bro this is not true. I think GENG/FNC/TH/PRX are favorites to win Champs, unless EDG shows up again. SEN aient winning shit this year, I'm sorry they aren't that good right now. They have comp/map issues that they've been trying to fix and it's not working. I can confidently say only their SUNSET is very good, every other map feels more like they are relying on their individual to do good.

I think Furia/2G are obviously shit but our other 10 teams are not worse than DFM/TS/GE. EG was looking good before Toronto, NRG has been looking good at EWC, 100T been looking good replacing their dog boostio, KRU always somehow make champs and they did good in stage 1 (just lost out in playoffs), MIBR (im not really sure but they havent been looking great lately, we will have to see how Verno IGL turns out), LEV (made a ton of roster changes, so their team is very inconsistent), LOUD (they went 0-5 but a lot of games were super close, I think this is their split), C9 (they are split mercahnts, basically like BME) As for SEN/G2, they are our best teams but unfortunately they haven't been playing well internationally no excuses.

How is Wolves going 0-3 have anything to do with Americas, it just means Wolves became really shit after Toronto. Teams can improve and get worse, TH was looking terrible at Toronto but much better at EWC for example.

What the hell is the context? What team went 0-3

Idk if SEN icebox comp is actually working for them or Furia is actually this bad........

2G back to ascension yall go, G2 is never going back lol

How many trophies does 100T have? What's the record vs SEN? Did 100T even make a LAN this year? SEN owns your whole org, even their Marvel rivals team is whooping their ass.

I like Wolves but cmon if you're going to rep their flag, at least have some decency. Wolves is ass right now.....

He had one bad game, and it's on Ascent a map where SEN is known to be bad at. He farmed map 1 and 3.

Lotus is an attack sided map, why is G2 and SEN both terrible at it.......

SEN disrespecting G2 with this dogshit ass deadlock comp....... Nobody wants to see this shit, just 2-0 G2 with normal team and move on.

+30 - 23 = 7 so close enough ig

NT G2 with a sub don't look that bad honestly. I can see this map just not having much prac for them, while SEN was probably cooking up this map.

No Boostio = no single digit kills on your team..... who of thought getting more kills = more round wins insane

How come these teams that play Tejo have been playing really mid now. G2, SEN, RRQ, and MIBR are some teams top of my head. Did Tejo really break these teams…..

I didn't believe in 2G even with Spike but damn bro is playing really well. Good for 2G

Well I feel like Kaplan does a bit of trolling a bit at times, the map bans vs FNC got them eliminated. Last year he took way too long to realize how dogshit deadlock was, finally going back to their old comps let them get top 4 at champs.

Sure 100T got unlucky with their bracket but they are super inconsistent, last year they were only good during the mid season. This year their best rn is looking like maybe possible champions but they are struggling to play consistently closing out games. They cannot adapt a winning a round to end the match. We will see stage 2 goes.

Kaplan is experimenting with map bans, he's really sold on Icebox being a good map for them.

The TH curse of losing to the 1st and 3rd place was actually True, they lost to PRX 1st and Wolves 3rd. Kinda crazy

Not luck at all bro, SEN really sucks at defense. Even last year they suck on defense, they play the same god damn playstyle on defense for every map which is a problem. All the maps are different, stop playing retake perma and have someone on site try to get 1-2 to make retaking easier. 5v5 retake is impossible because all the good teams will save their utility in post plant to counter 5v5 retake.

You can call me crazy but I think SEN kinda innovated the retake meta last year, and G2 copy it and perfected it. I have to admit G2 is really good they would only lose a round to a gunfight rather than macro play.

After watching SEN 2/3 of the season, this roster just cannot win unfortunately. TenZ was the X factor who would farm and make some miracle hero plays that would somehow win them rounds. Bang is a great replacement but unfortunately he would never did what TenZ did vs prime TH https://www.vlr.gg/378835/team-heretics-vs-sentinels-valorant-champions-2024-lr3

I already been saying since last year but this roster has no lurkers. Any good team just know SEN is 5 man post plant on site with no lurkers, so they never have to worry about it. They play heavy retake and teams just use no utility vs SEN to clear site because their playstyle is play off angle and hope they win that fight. The enemy just holds counter utility for their retakes and have a lurker and it's just so bad watching their defense. YOU CANNOT be doing that kind of playstyle on god damn icebox. SOMEONE needs to play back Yellow, to force utility from Sova to clear it. All game I just saw FNC walk up B for free if Zekken wasn't there and they didn't even have to use util to clear Yellow or siite. FNC HIT B with no map control and 15 seconds and WON the round. I SAW BOASTER TP TOP SITE WITHOUT EVEN CLEARING ANYTHING BECAUSE HE KNOWS how nobody is there. Be more god damn proactive, you can high low on Icebox to hold backsite. Mix up your god damn defense, don't have 2 different setups just being retake A and retake B, some rounds you got to mix it up and fiight both sites. Learn how to god damn flank and break the turret. Breaking the flank util makes them have to have 1 player to watch flank, making the retake easier.

Anyways Im rooting for Wolves for this event, SEN fw them heavy and Siufatbb is cool

SEN bans Haven FNC bans Pearl SEN picks Sunset FNC picks Split SEN bans Ascent FNC bans Icebox Decider Lotus

Haven ban could of been swapped with Ascent, but it would probably be decider map if left open.

No SEN, time to root for Wolves.

The games would of been closer, PRX just played perfect Split + won a lot of clutches. The score shouldnt make them think they are dogshit at it.

I rather see a Split game than god damn fucking Ascent/Icebox. I hate watching them play that map.

U didn't watch that game then, go rewatch how many rounds were clutches. PRX are clutch gods but if SEN won any of them, it be a different story.The map score can be deceiving.

It doesn't matter if FNC split is the "best", no reason to ban a map where you are actually pretty decent on vs maps they struggle on like Icebox/Ascent. I made a post like a week ago going over SEN map pool, and those 2 are their weakest maps.

Kaplan what the fuck are these map vetos???? Why are we playing fucking Icebox decider??? Just let FNC pick split mfer, more comfort map. We lost 3-13 on Split but there was a lot of close rounds, just play SPLIT again mfer. Why we playing these maps IM SO MAD at Kaplan because he trolled the map picks.

Kaplan what the fuck are these map vetos???? Why are we playing fucking Icebox decider??? Just let FNC pick split mfer, more comfort map. 3-13 vs PRX but there was like 8 rounds that were very close clutches like cmon man.

I knew 7 with no pistol second half isnt enough, SEN defense is so bad on this map. We have zero map control anywhere man. GG FNC hit site with 15 secs left and won the round.

Im scared chat

Nah pretty close rounds, Johnqt woke up.