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double MVP is good case to enter top 3

all guys are delivering these playoffs...especially Something and D4v41

bro he is in a league of his own...I am counting these "pros" in debate

Apeks is going to be that team to lose the spot...M8 should be safe I guess(unless 2 teams relegated is possible )

If PRX win Toronto....
will Mako be the best player without any international trophy?
for this moment as we speak is F0rsakeN, right?(that should be the fact)

good point.....
not trying to hate but SEN was gifted....they beat the most inexperinced team on their first event(later they cooked), beat BLG which barely beat a team without their IGL...and faced the easiest play off team who had 1 player banned prior to this game

taking in account TH was not mentally restored form their 3-0 final aganist FNC.....they had the worst match up in round 1 added more to their pressure as they were expected playoffs and contenders...and what was said losing to Wolves seen as a choke turned out Wolves were there to cook.
(lost both games to top 3 Toronto teams...maybe Wolves goes final today)

taking in account EMEA finished so late and directly took flight too other part of world( jett lag. fatigue, burnout)

Series of unfortunate events...FNC had that 1 week extra and they look great now. They might win event over PRX(MY TEAM ) ...and I can accept that as they deserve credit too.(same for Wolves)

Shao is such a good shout out tbh.....that guy needs to leave NAVI...him on KC can fix them tbh

reading is not you strong point ehhh? (please note is 2 max players per team)

plus emea team have no smoker?

TRUE ...FORGOT THAT.....10-1 then

and I forgot about Slowly as I dont follow much chinese ..is he in NOVA? AND FLEX?

MY 2ND VERSION LITERALLY.....I like this more as the firepower is higher....but the first one is the most strategical team

I think STAX as IGL and Initiator keeps the strings together....Not minding Mako as IGL ... , but initiator needs to be the IGL as is hardest role in APAC.....
the team has no IGL , but is very interesting one.....

Milan looks very unique and a lot mentioned he cooks very interesing idea...MINI on other hand helped PRX and would act as a good duo....I dont think there is a better assistant then him now...IN THE v2 i can put him....but I still think v1 IS THE IDEAL...you have to put Boaster there man...BEST igl FOR reason....I dont mind TL ofc....literally
PRX, FNC and TL are my fav teams...but Nats has a long head as IGL . he is in right path though...he always been the GOAT of sentinel for me and one of my fav players ( in and out of game)

FOR sure top 5 AOT for me

that is what i considered ,but Stax is one of my favs and his utils are good...I think him initiator and IGL leaves the other 4 to be insane shooters and smart players

I mean not , but when you think they lost to 2 teams who are top 3( maybe finalists)

is like FPX in shanghai

I belive TH will pull the impossible and hopefully if PRX wins...g2 will remain the only team to chose finals and not win 1

but Smoggy and Kang Kang fills the 2 max per team quota.....maybe I can switch smoggy for Spring and put Chichoo there....does that work you think?

As Leo is my fav player I would say not this year....Crashies deserves to be on this team this year full....Leo can come back on 2026....or if somehow he leaves I would love him to join TL....that would make TL super strong TBH...

KEIKO/ NATS /LEO /KAMO /PATITEK is insane team( Patitek can be flash initiator/ flex )

holy ...... in 3 out 4 last events EMEA teams sent them home as full pakage ..hahahaah

Don't tell them that the record EMEA VS AMER in elimination game is 10-1 for EMEA TEAMS SINCE START OF 2024

Master Shanghai:
FUT eliminated LEV
TH eliminated 100T
TH eliminated G2

Champs Seoul:
FNC eliminated KRU
FNC eliminated G2
TH eliminated SEN
TH eliminated LEV
...
SEN eliminated FNC

Master Bangkok:
TL eliminated SEN

Master Toronto:
TL eliminated MIBR
FNC eliminated SEN
FNC eliminated G2

ahem

If FNC wins Grand Final....I think Kaajak will get Final MVP
on PRX side I have a feeling it can be Something

THERE ARE 2 fnc players already...cant have 3 but i made a V2 version now with Nats IGL.....

a bit incosistent I thought of Keiko as smoker now

cant put kajaak...though of Xeus There but I dont like that as he has to prove more, but team draging him...Miniboo IS FLEXIBLE AS DUELIST too

if we had to make and ultimate team using players from their own each region who would come as best (current active players)(2 max per team)

for me this is the order:

APAC ///// Mako/ Meteor / Stax(IGL) / F0rsaken/ Texture ( alecks + solo coaches)
EMEA //// Boaster (IGL) / Nats / Riens / Chronicle / Miniboo ( Milan + Mini coaches)
EMEA v2 Keiko / Nats(IGL) / Riens / Chronicle / KaajaK ( Milan + Mini coaches)

AME ///// Valyn(IGL) / lukxo / trent / N4rrate/ Zekken ( Potter + Kaplan coaches)
CN //////// Spring / Chichoo/ SuifatBB(IGL) / Yuicaw / Zmjjkk ( Muggle + Fayde coaches )

ORDER IS:
Controller/ sentinel / initiator / Flex / Duelist

(Hard when you take the 2 per team rule as EMEA misses Alfa and is hard to select IGL if you put 2 FNC players if you remove Boaster....Boo as IGL is loss for me...honestly CHRON cant be replaced....I would rather have Nats over Alfa then anybody in place of Chronicle)

AND why is that ...casue top teams have the money ( casue of their name and influence ).....they have deserved money.....PL teams have no restriction on budget like La Liga....Championship teams getting more than rest is crazy ....but is good at least since championship has huger fanbase in UK

I will still argue that La Liga is better....Premier league has the money and fame whatever....give not only La liga but to SERIE A and Bundesliga teams the money that PL teams have and you will see how it will be

Barca and Madrid pulls player cause of their name. Something PL teams will never acheive

the fact that FPX couldnt attend rekjavik in 2022 still haunts

Every time there is this EMEA vs AME discussion...people say that

If EDG hadn't won one you wouldnt say it

Every time they won a game

Is time to win that trophy....

I respect Valyn though.. he is very well spoken guy( if that is a word)
But Leaf has to be the player l hate the most

People will always discredit 2021 and only mention SEN winning as Acend and Gambit are not legit winners

Honestly G2 has to be the team with less aura ever.
Talk big when they were abusing the Tejo meta
Overconfident for no reason
Drop a song named G2 in Golden Era
Just to place 4th and lose like that to FNC

The fact they are the best AME team and AME fans hate them

We all want FNC to make it as a viewer....l think Wolves reaching finals would give PRX the trophy, but woth FNC l can see it 50-50

It might look like ascent kinda, but it looks good to me

Since is their perma ban and also one of strongest PRX maps now .
It wont be banned by PRX l guess

Would you think the map will be pulled up like this by FNC

Yoru- kajaak
Vyse - chron
Astra- Boaster
Sova - Crashies
Chamber - alfa

( I can see Alfa trying Jett there as element of surprise.... We will surely get to see that map , right?

The fact is l don't think we know what Pearl will look like...have they played that map in officials?

I guess we will have

Yoru/ astra/ vyse/ chamber / sova there?

Honestly l still belive that that Bind was the reason they lost the final....Just cause Something had a bad Reyna game . It happes

Now since they have a double map ban advantage coming as upper bracket winner..
They should ban Heaven and Ascent , right?
Or you guys think they can run Ascent and ban another one
( Didnt look bad at that map recently)
Pearl is a map FNC have been avoiding so that must be a map 1 or map 3 for PRX and guaranteed win and l think should be 3rd to turn the tables in worse event they lose 2-0)
Sunset also is PRX advantage
Lotus/icebox/ split closer then they look

MP veto should be like this l think
Ban : heaven and Ascent
PRX picks first:

Sunset/ split/ pearl / lotus / icebox

I think Icebox is neither team fav map but they can be solid

I can se a world where PRX can ban Split and icebox instead of ascent, but l wouldnt like that risk....

This should be thought better l think by PRX and not pull the Champs 2023 map veto

( Also l am taking FNC as winner cause l cannot see them lose BO5 , no disrespect , but their are the best BO5 team ever and l think they are slightly favoured in the final if they make it....my 2nd Fav team , but this time l have to root aganist them as my team shouldn't lose 3 finals)

Honestly the fact they APAC will send only 4 out if these teams
PRX/Gen G/ DrX/ T1 / RRQ/ BOOM is funny

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But l think RRQ will have it just because of Stage 1....unlucky events

DRX and T1 will make the region have their best lineup ever( they need just to fix the issues)
PRX and Gen G already contenders.....
Gen G needs to dix mental and PRX needs to prove they are not chokers tommorrow

The fact is that EMEA might be the least followed league ....
They are following more CS than Val....Valorant best thing in esport is that ....at this point all regions can pull of a winner

Last 2 finals hosted a team from each region....
And the smallest (weakest) considered regions actually won

Also adding that EMEA came with tremendous disadvantage of time prep.....
TH suffered the most
TL couldnt have Nats for first game...that would have changed the course....
Just think that TL might have beaten SEN then
( I think they would)
Pass swiss.....beat XLG at least( place top 6) respectable

The fact that they 3-0 and eleminated all AME teams is a sing of whose the best region .
I have a feeling TH will have a shot at next event.
And lets be honest G2 being best team in AME , the region wont win anything...not saying G2 is bad , but They can be countered everytime....
2nd time from FNC getting 2-0'd

If Wolves can pull of a good placement next event sure....if not ...it will be just a one time run which happend to be......
I need at least a other solid Chinese team which is not EDG or Wolves...then sure...

EMEA has had in last 3 events....3 different teams in top 4

I have a feeling G2 and TH will take it serious......if PRX win they will be the only teams to ever lose Grand finals and not win one....strange when you think about it.
I am scared of FNC tbh. They are my 2nd fav team as an EMEA fan and European Resident.....BO5 are their specialities and they lost only 2 in whole VCT history l think.

https://www.vlr.gg/504594/na-is-most-overrated-region/#72

did I lie?

G2 IN THEIR GOLD 2 ERA

THAT WAS ALREADY MORE THAN 1 YEAR AGO....we are not saying who won the latest . the fact we both agree is that both regions are worse than APAC. I can assume that. what I mean is both regions have lost their finals and 1 of our regions is going out Friday .

G2 beating FNC or the opposite won't prove anything .....the fact is if I can let them face to face and most AME teams will get smoked.