Yeah there's that as long as there's buffs to 1 or 2 characters per few months to get things to where is good I don't mind this that much perfection is supposed to take time

That works a bit better its relatively the same genre

This could be cool if it happens next year too but it would have to be buffs more than nerfs there really isn't very much to nerf after this patch

That's a different genre though I'm not sure if that quite works the same

CS in my opinion has more annoying util than valorant these people would hate it there

Lowkey CS has more annoying util than valorant this is just your bottom fragging reyna mains needing something to blame

Good thing veto is ass it's like they designed with these util changes in mind

tbh I do think chamber does do his job as a sentinel well you just have to think of chamber himself as a trip

Senti mains are cooked sites will not be anchored from now on

What does this mean?

Clearly they hate her idk what she did to deserve this but they hate her

Considering how bad the experience is for everyone who plays the role except pros that is true this patch is not going to be great for ranked in practice unfortunate that it's not really fixable at it's core

True no changes is crazy I thought she would get the 60 second thing but it doesn't look like it

It's vyse and breach players I don't play either much but lowkey they have the right to complain they were quite harsh on those 2

Somehow the least nerfed despite being the 2nd best agent in the game

Yeah exactly there's not a lot to stop them and retakes are also harder too

Yes just that headshot doesn't kill light armor at range in 1 shot

Prx will be better if anything this new meta heavily rewards aggressive play

Lowkey considering he's mostly stayed the same and even his nerf isn't actually that relevant he's semi worth playing in 11.08

Let's be honest though unless you're an entry it's just point, patience and clicking if anything the rifles are probably already the least skilled of the bunch besides an uncostested op since they simply are the best all around

I think a patch like this for a year and then a massive change next year could be a cool idea but my problem with this idea is the fact that it could lead to the game being like fortnite in a sense where it's unreasonably difficult to be good consistently and while fortnite is probably the only game that gets away with it relatively alright a franchised system like valorant makes the game way too harsh on the pros for this to mmbe a good idea in practice

Are we sure the recoil changes do that much I don't think gunplay is bad or anything but it's is far simpler than people make it out to be it only gets difficult if you're an entry and basically no one is in the most grand scheme of things

I think omen astra stay but they'll be worse at what they do I feel like sites are going to be near impossible to actually hold with the changes harbor is unironically one of the best anchors rn because he doesn't seem to have gotten changes and he can execute fairly well so there's that

You are right why is it not out 😭

Is a standard duelist imo the ult does far too much and even on its current state it's still free info I think you either play 2x duelist or 3x initiator for info

I think the one on initiators is on twitter the other one is on YouTube idk why they're separate that's annoying

On their twitter

Fnc win it all because the meta is now either full rushes or waiting until the last 10 seconds and nothing else in between is good guess what fnc does in their matches

This game would be really fun if it wasn't on the Internet this can also be said all other team based competitive games

Look if every year has this many changes it's both a cool thing and horrible
cool because every year is incredibly different but also bad because it sounds horrible to work a job where your value already drops off a cliff if you have a bad split or 2 and now you have to deal with extremely different games each year

They are forcing a very specific meta which I think is for viewership or casual play but this amount of changes is not normal if they weren't forcing something

Other way around

Also it doesn't help that nerfs are inherently negative and literally everyone is getting nerfs this patch so noone is going to be happy

They're nerfing literally everyone with very few exceptions I'm not sure if we actually needed to go this hard

Shit is never gonna pop bruh I guess now you peek when it's popping but then you die like what's the point in not playing double duelist rn nothing is stopping your rushes and you can play stuff like yoru neon and raze to still have useful util throughout a round

Yeah breach is actually like proper dead this is way too hard on him

I feel like both sites are so ass to play on you have to spam like abyss B especially where am I playing before the changes you have to push up or spam and most take the 2nd option

Wait does that mean the lotus tech thingy is back or nah

To be fair that's true but there's a difference between being miserable and stating an opinion then again it's vlr were definitely being negative

That buff was just ass all around sounds alright until you remember it makes the entire game iso's to lose

Gekko found dead after riot forgot about his main gimmick somehow

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It's more skillful than the gunplay
Also we're overreacting a little with the patch as long as this isn't the only one done in the off-season it's fine to experiment even if I disagree with the game's direction

Harbor rn lowkey has a fairly solid place now that all of his competition has been toned down

Can't wait to not be able to use the skillful bit of the game hope it's not as bad as I think it is

True but the anchoring is just something that all smokes can do tbf I think if anything we should be getting rid of the duelist part

Tp didn't really change same with the blind and apparently the smoke change is wrong

I feel like this only nerfs retake cams I don't see it actually affecting the ability plus it give info if you break it so in that sense it's a buff

Didn't those die a while ago there only like 2 that work though tbf they are pretty annoying

Means he can't anchor as well riot wants you to rush a lot for no reason I guess to appeal to people who don't know how to play to begin with

But it was still fine if not lacking before this patch just appeals to the players that don't think when they play more than anything initiators should be using abilities it's literally the point of the role and info abilities especially make the game infinitely more playable otherwise every map is defense sided and u camp in corners every round this patch just lowers the games skill celling for no reason

Abyss changes I like they acknowledge the problem but also seem to want to solve issues that come from solving the initial issue