Misogyny would be saying "C9W are not capable of high level play because they are women" thats not what im saying. Im saying they do not show high level play and its insulting to other teams who are performing better but struggle to get contracts. The only bias here is with you, siding with thm only because THEY ARE women.

Im sure that these unsigned teams that are beating them are paid less, yes lmao. What kind of stupid question is that

No but cNed is still a step above heat and tenz thats for sure

Stop spamming cringe threads cretin

Stop projecting cringelord

Imagine thinking shit talk is a bad thing for the game. Creates hype and shows actual personality instead of being a boring robot like half the players.

Salaried team that pracs every day vs literal no namers. Jays can barely get out of NSG groups but against C9W they look like gods. How are C9W this bad?

Cringe + Bozo. Stay mad simp

Still elite at champions just not undoubtedly the best player

Oh yeah lets compare the best tournament Tenz played months ago with an average tournament from cNed in the present. That totally seems unbiased and reasonable. Imagine cNed isnt even the best player on his team and STILL OUTPERFORMS TenZ. How can you be that much of a fanboi that you make an argument against yourself and dont even realize.

And no, cNed has played over 3x the rounds on Jett as scream has on Reyna and they have pretty much the same stats. .99 KPR. In no world is ScreaM a BETTER duelist than cNed right now. Theres a small argument that theyre at the same level but cNed being able to play Jett is just more impactful.

Actually a promising roster

Uhm Leaf? Literally did everything for C9

cNed and Zeek had nearly identical stats at Champions but you say Zeek was amazing and cNed was average. Just shows how much you expect from cNed because he IS that good

Leaf is far better than heat

Cringe biased take based on nothing

Okay look at them individually then.

As Jett

cNed 276 ACS 1.47 KD .99 KPR over ~4600 rounds
heat 260 ACS 1.38 KD .96 KPR over ~ 2800 rounds

So cNed maintains higer averages in every category and with almost 2000 more rounds played.

Not biased at all. Lmk when Brazil can make playoffs

Tell me what cNed was worse than Tenz at during champions. Id love to hear it cause he literally outperformed him in every regard.

ScreaM isnt even in the conversation at least if were talking about Jett he tried Jett for one series and went back to Reyna immediately after.

Its not misogyny if anything its unfair for the male players who are better than them but get paid way less, how is that difficult for you to understand?

Because theyre paid more than pretty much every male team here and are significantly worse than most. Theyre awful for how much they get paid

I made more this year than youll make in your next 10. Keep simping for terrible players that make the scene worse you absolute numbskull

Being the best female team isnt an achievement when they have no inherent disadvantage to men.

This awful awful team gets tier 1 salaries for playing like this. Truly pathetic

ScreaM has been a monster regardless of role tho. The switches have been about making the other players comfortable. Even when he was pretty much a sage man he was top fragging consistently.

Vlr is structured much more similar with the matches events rankings and stats but w/e

No proper reply as i thought. Stay mad you know nothing about team structures

Youre braindead man. The IGL and Coach are both working towards the same goal. Having the team play better as a unit and working on better strategies. They both watch demos/vods both of their own team and future opponents and come together to create a winning plan. You just come off as a butthurt argumentative devils advocate loser. Grow up

So i say the coach helps with teamplay and then you type a paragraph about how the coach helps fix teamplay errors and create cohesion between the team and say im wrong?

You do realize that there can be overlap in what the coach and IGL do right? They can both strive towards fixing the same problems at times. They can both work on tactics they can both adjust things so that there is less mistakes.

Imagine thinking anyone would read this armchair analyst grubble. You basically said every team has a chance to win. What actual insight did you provide in that wall of text lmao

Having solid fundamentals and teamplay are things that good leadership and coaching leads to...

Pretty contradictory statement from you.

Says the one calling peoples lives shit. Stay mad your region is weak af

Playing Split is what knocked out both nV and SEN. Find raze/breach players or ban the map. gg

OWL salaries are not dead tho. Much higher than SEA Val

Should have just picked Ascent again. No reason to force split, got rolled by breach and raze utility which they refuse to play for some reason.

What, when was scream ever totally lost?? He quite literally has one of the highest KDs and combat scores over a shitload of maps vs top teams all time.

https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all&region=all&country=all&min_rounds=1000&min_rating=1750&agent=all&map_id=all&timespan=all

Thats a legit braindead take. You clearly dont watch Liquid matches

"i was only pretending to be retarded" sure m8

literally never

1.2 rating on LAN says otherwise. Stay mad trash baiter

His "underperformance" is still an elite player on one of the best teams at the tournament aka consistent. His peaks are near best player in the world as his role and his troughs are well above average

Breh its his first year in international tournaments and led his team to the semi finals of a major only to be beaten by the GOAT in peak form beginning an era. Straight delusional take from you

Rn cNed, screaM, yay, nats

Honorable mentions: Jamppi, Sacy, stax, derke, Sheydos, F0rsaken

I mean they already beat X10 pretty handily. Theyre clear favorites tomorrow

Maybe VK focused more on their play instead of engaging in Twitter wars and trying to get other competitors banned they wouldnt look like such garbage. Ez for Thailand GG

Look man, every game has bugs. Its their job as competitors as much as it is riots to uphold competitive integrity and report the cam spot. Especially when cams like this are a common point of discussion whether theyre allowed or not.

Brazil is soooo salty lmao. If VK really is the better team then winning in the lower bracket shouldnt be that big of a problem no? VK is a solid team but competitive integrity must be upheld.

Thats some good copium you're on man

What lmao?

Boring ass commenter stw2k forever alone and depressed

So salty even when they win. Everything okay at home?

Stay mad