bdog > add3r

They were crazy in the league, but lost crucial matches in playoffs.

This. LOL.

Your hate for Pancada is just bait.

100T looked crazy in the off-season last year.

bang - recon phantom

Oh, my bad, thanks. I didn't notice that. I thought the whole lower bracket was BYE.

Yes, I agree. Supamen is crazy good. I have watched a lot of his games.

MIBR was last in LCQ and KRU was last in league. However, KRU won LCQ. So MIBR and G2 are #10 and #11? One of these two teams gets eliminated on losing the first series?

Jawgemo and Boostio were carrying EG before franchising, even though they didn't win anything. They had very good stats in challengers tournaments etc.

Who are teams #10 and #11?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1923/champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff/group-stage

Who are teams #10 and #11?

we were only looking at stats on Raze and ignoring other agents.

corey on bdog's team? TTR?

Boaster is not washed yet. He is a decent IGL with decent fragging. Nothing too crazy. His fragging has improved a lot from his early days.

USA or Brazil

USA

I did check the ACS. It doesn't give the full picture, though. Jawgemo had only 224 in Tokyo, but his FK was pretty good. You don't need to be the best in a tournament to 'do well'.

I agree that Asuna was better than Jawgemo on Raze.

Asuna was a slightly better Raze in VCT Americas than Jawgemo.

But it's wrong to say that Jawgemo only did well in Champs. He did well in VCT Americas and Tokyo as well.

Mitch

Leo's sova util is better

Verno
Skuba
Reduxx
Boostio
Brawk

Demon1 not being crazy in Tokyo is irrelevant to this discussion

Yes, he is very good. He should be picked up. Sad that franchising teams probably wouldn't drop anyone for him at this point though.

wait till VCT Americas group stage goes halfway

vanity did take 2 separate NA teams (V1, C9) to international LANs.

No, penny got forgotten because he switched roles to flex in G2. He was good as a duelist and chamber on V1. He used to match Tenz, and yay back then when V1 played them.

I can see this happening. He was good on Rise and 100T with Sean Gares.

Yes

His Kayo on Sunset was pretty good tbh.

has been making goofy decisions and dying in stupid ways pretty often

Not every time. His raze is kinda 50-50 rn.

He was very good in the first 1-2 years of Valorant. Hasn't been the same after.

I hope he becomes more consistent

M80

well

I remember penny going toe to toe with Prime Tenz

:(

bang was so good at the start. He can still perform, I think it's just a confidence thing.

-Asuna, +Jawgemo

He was good in the first 1.5 years of Valorant, that's about it.

Jawgemo and COM were really good moves for this team

yes, it's a troll comp

Pecans, Macadamia

he is him

agreed

If you think about money and prestige, yes, Champions > Masters + Lock//In

In terms of competition, Champions and Masters are roughly the same simply because of the teams and format.

I think people saying Masters + Lock//In > Champions are saying that to support their argument that Fnatic was the best team (in terms of results/wins, not prize money) of 2023, not to claim Fnatic to be the most prestigious team.

Next 10 man team

I heard Havoc was a good Jett player, and mwzera was a god on raze, but havoc played raze and mwzera played chamber.

I see more in bang