stop doing the behavior and people will stop calling it out, doesn't mean shit if it's generalization when they're talking to YOU and YOU are doing it. if this were anyone else you'd be shitting yourself in rage but you're running defense for them. Literally why.

Literally one guy, tf you mean "number 1 excuse for EU fans" fuck off

It's leak and get sanctioned by riot or try and go through the proper channels and get harassed by suckers and ignored.

I guess every team should just never scrims each other and everyone should just leak everyone's strats all the time then? The point is it SHOULD be against the rules. This loophole is BS and you know that.

how is 4 good discounts on 4 decent skins shit bro what this is like a 99th percentile market

8 partnered teams + 4 slots with other access routes is fine. Just cut C9/NRG + Furia, GX + BBL and DFM + a KR org.

uh... FNC....?

I picked on NA cuz flag i was replying to.

It's not like wondering where the African players in EMEA are because NA is one of the better funded subregions and there's barely a scene in Africa. Awful comparison.

Org matters because management diff is blatantly obvious. Look at NRG and C9 and tell me their management isn't trolling.

I cover the NA players in #40. sa is excellent talent wise and honestly teams should be poaching their players unless their orgs pull their shit together.

honestly I think s0m is better if he wasn't married to the gold igl but ignoring that being the best player on NRG right now is not an accomplishment.

The only talent on that team is the management for being so unbelievably good at throwing people under the bus.

Crashies is fine but nothing a T2 player couldn't have matched. The only reason he got imported instead of a T2 player picked up is because they were hoping he'd be very temporary and Leo would get to come back, so training the T2 player would be wasted. Of course, that's not what happened.

Flor is easily the best player on Apeks and I wasn't arguing against that incredibly low bar. She's not classed as an import and your government probably doesn't want her back anyway, but yes, she's probably the best option Apeks could've gotten and they're lucky another team wasn't willing to pay her more.

Don't ask me why the fuck koala, flyuh and ESPECIALLY governor are even here, that was literally part of my point. Why they aren't T2 pickups instead only the dumbass orgs know, but they are signed and they are dog.

that's a gx problem not a T2 problem. NRG has done the same thing with two rookies back to back except the first one is now frying on the current best team in Brazil.

don't pretend your region doesn't troll rookie development in their own way too.

na has one good team and it's a European org. your other two contenders are sa.

also, the NA imports in EMEA literally keep getting farmed... if the orgs all actually took rookies from T2, guaranteed they'd perform better. Just look at CyvOph. Bro looks like the best player on a team with Derke and Less 💀

I wasn't watching, sorry, WHAT THE FUCK? GX GOT 13-0'D BY NAVI!? 💀

EMEA being in Berlin isn't a particularly big issue right now for a number of reasons but LA and Seoul are absolutely a problem. I don't see the US and Korea bias leaving though. Because money. Still bullshit and they should use more fair, centralized locations. But I doubt they care.

yeah it was already fishy as fuck, but what the hell

apparently bait but I think he might just be zellsis

No, because then Riot will Chet him. He's not stupid.

There's definitely something deeper going on, this is far from the first "coincidence" with riot and Korea.

The top half is very good but bro should've stopped once he got half way cuz he doesn't keep up with any of the teams worse than Sen lmao.

C9 and TE are playing at the level they're placed, but are repeat crack under slightest pressure teams, so that's kind of excusable. The bottom of the list isn't.

Nah I reckon MIBR and KRU have a serious shot if they continue their current trajectory. So south is fine.

I don't feel sorry for them at all, 90% of this was avoidable if they did their jobs better and were better at scouting instead of just shelling out.

who

Puts them at least a tier higher for not having washed problem personalities that keep "coincidentally" having their rosters explode.

Arguably they didn't and everyone else just got better and adapted to the new stuff better. Worse by proxy but imo they're playing about the same as last year.

Poor bait though.

KC isn't impossible if they get their shit together and the Harbor buffs are bonkers.

Koi though LMAO

Realistically everyone but TS and MKOI should get one by the end of the year. But I could easily be wrong.

You, yes, you - I see you. I know you're about to fall for the bait again. Come on, you're better than this. Let's keep a flor bait thread below 15 replies, just to prove we can.

shit job guys

Aside from C9 and Trace who should be rated lower until they prove they can actually amount to anything other than group and region merchants respectively, this list is fairly decent.

Until after SEN. The whole back 2/3 of C, and all of the lower tiers, is completely nonsense.

0/8 try harder next time, nobody's going to take you seriously if you pretend the other Americas teams are even close to G2's level.

Yeah, poster is just biased as hell. Only talks about the top teams of Americas (and sneaks Kru and C9 into G2 and maybe MIBR's "world class" status) and then emphasises the bottom table of EMEA as if not literally every Americas team they didn't list is at best equally dreadful, but realistically mostly worse.

wasn't gonna watch the joke game but if they've got medieval mages I might tune in ngl

I totally agree, it's much more Yoru defining the current meta than Tejo. And it's not necessarily because he's stronger than the other duelists, (although he probably is also that given how versatile gatecrash is).

I think the biggest factor right now is that there are so many good agents you can't fit everything into one comp, and Yoru helps to alleviate that by putting Entry, Flashes and a very strong info ult on one slot so you can run strong agents that don't check boxes in your flex slot without having to make big sacrifices.

Making up for Haven Iso, Deadlock Split, and the poor info of Breach/Tejo comps are the most obvious examples of this.

Or if you're KC you miss the "strong" part entirely and he's making up for the Harbor

"hard to be creative in this meta" we say after masters one was won by a team running something creative that plays to their strengths instead of forcing Breach Tejo

about equivalently as conspiriatorial and bullshit as the rest of these; checks out ig.

ew who the fuck let you back in

Europe is much smaller, has more similar cultures, and every non-german has to deal with it mostly the same.

It is a talking point in APAC. Korean teams DO have an advantage and a Korea-only platform has exclusive rights to T2 Apac, giving them a chokehold there too.

It was only an upset because of prior year performances by loud. Based off actual recent gameplay by the players who were actually in the match instead of completly baseless nostalgia it was pretty predictable

0/8

an upset? In 2025 AMER? Nah.

The trick is that Boaster knows how to and practices fights and clutches while FNS has deluded himself into thinking he doesn't need to practice and it's acceptable to try and run away from every fight if his teammates can make up for it (spoiler alert: they can't).

There's such an obvious difference in playstyle and mindset between Boaster's confident Astra/Omen and FNS visibly panicking shitting himself as KJ on Pearl realising he's 100% about to throw what for literally any other player in the league would be a round winning lurk on one of the most important rounds of the entire Bo3.

him or pancada ig

don't mind the NRG fan he still thinks FNS could be good on a team with anything but the best 4 aimers in the world doesn't know shit about potential after tossing verno

Even Apeks is consistently getting a map each game, even if they've yet to win.

I know you are that's why I'm pointing out them using the group ratings doesn't make C9 or 100T not 5/6th

do you understand how groups works

They're like 5-6th. But yeah, everything below 4th sucks in Amer and that might even be giving Sen too much credit.

EMEA and APAC are more competitive, at least within their regions

All of pacific has suddenly decided to do 6 man teams based off one result, don't worry about it.

I mean, I've been saying it ever since the agent pool has got significantly more diverse, but it's still a bit wild of a response immediately after T1 win when thats not even what they were doing.

plenty of anal in their tangents it's just not the kind you were hoping for

I remember hearing their ranked servers are no-comm all the way up because people are too afraid to be seen as toxic for almost anything, but I'm not sure how much truth there is to that.

If you only come for gun diff then sure, but i much prefer strat diff with a sprinkle of gun diff to the reverse. The BOOM vs GE game was visibly just gun diff the entire time and was rubbish because of it. All the best games have been a good mix.

The trolling can go though.

at football or something i was only half listening