Not hypothetical
NA tier 2 is factually, 100% the best T2 region

"LiQuId Is An Na OrGaNiZaTiOn, MaYbE vAlOrAnT kIdS dOn'T kNoW tHaT."- Jeffo, 2024

The 4 hrs was a random estimate from Berlin to Iceland. Once again if they are travelling mid season they are gonna be in Berlin bc that is where the best servers r for prac, and where the vct games r held. They r not flying out of Russia unless they went home for a weekend or something.

I 100% disagree with u Abt Russia somehow being the opposite of America and EU at the same time. R u saying EU and Americas cultures r exactly the same?! That makes literally no sense. Russians are ethnically european, they speak a Slavic language and Russians cultural ancestors where from Scandinavians and slavics. All the most popular places in Russia where created and influenced heavily by European culture but sure. Americas, including all of latin America and South America are muuuuch more similar to Europe the Russia is. Most definitely.

Once again I understand if ur upset for the players but there is nothing that can be done bc of political stuff so y fuck the rest of the world over and just keep EU happy with hosted tournaments when there could be a much more equally spread tournament locations?

Don't even know why the conversation was shifted to just talk Abt Russia when it's BS that EU has all the tournaments regardless

OMG bro like any of the sleep, losing prac time is comparable when it's a 4 hr journey versus a full day of travelling. Ur right they r a 1:1 comparison how did I not notice that?!?!?!?! And it's totally just as much of a culture shock and unfamiliar place going from Americas to EU or EU to EU. Of course the difference is just as drastic. (Sarcasm btw, know I have to spell it out for u)

Visa is no longer an excuse after u have the fucking visa. Sure if ur playing without ur full team it sucks but them not having visa issues getting into Americas/Tokyo tournament so it's not an excuse for not making the finals which is what my entire thread has been Abt.

And ur argument that the Russian players who had to fly mid season, meaning from Berlin, to Iceland, or turkey is not comparable to flying from Americas to Berlin, or turkey or Iceland. Sure they still have to apply for visas but they do that ahead of time. And then only have a very short trip which is equal to the trip any other EU team would have to make from Berlin to wherever tf they r going.

If ur so upset Abt Russian players being hard done by then there is nothing I can say that will make u feel better bc their government has fucked them over. But u have Russian players dicks so far up ur ass and mouth u cannot recognize that the tournament bias still fucking sucks for the rest of the world yet they can actually host events in the rest of the world. I guarantee u we will not be seeing a Russia hosted event for a whilleeeee bc of politics.

LOL u stupid as fuck I agreed Abt copenhagen bc like I said if ur the best team even dropping to lowers u should win and they did IDK what u think u proving on that LOL

And they legit have to get their visa to Berlin B4 the szn starts or else they wouldn't have been to play in Berlin LOL so like I said, once u get the visa it's not a excuse anymore, do I have to make another post agreeing with u that after getting a visa they have shown it no longer affects them?!?!?!

And now ur literally trying to twist and turn in every which way to counter the undisputed facts that EU has had DOUBLE the rest of the worlds tournaments yet don't make away finals as much as Americas make away finals or make home finals as much as Americas make home finals. This is simply just facts srry u can't wrap ur head around that and somehow think that visas r a valid excuse just bc they r harder for them to get they still have them.

And just a little extra: Americas to instanbul or Americas to Tokyo or Americas to Berlin r ALL further distances than Russia to Iceland. So Americas also makes finals after longer flights than EU

Another "if" situation ur relying for FPX beating OPTIC

And I think you don't understand that during the season all EU teams were in Berlin. Or would at least bootcamp there for the majority of the szn, just like how LOUD and FURIA r in LA for vct. So the Russia to EU thing is a dumb excuse.

Also u literally proved my point flexing Abt FPX when I said once u get the visa there is no excuse. If ur the best team u should make finals even after dropping to lowers. U rly r a lil dummy

Seethe a cope shitter, can't accept that even with double the amount of home stands EU teams don't have what it takes to always be in finals like Americas

LOL u r proving u r dumb, 2022 champs with FULL POWER FPX and FNC yet it's a OPTIC LOUD final?!?!?!?!?! EU didn't even get 3rd LOL. So even with all the full power teams from EU it's the same final matchup as Reykjavik?!?!?!?

Getting a visa from certain countries is harder yes. But once you get it then there is no excuse. Demon1 had visa issues for Tokyo yet they still make finals?!?!?!?!?

So not only does Americas perform better away sometimes they dominate so much they boot EU off the podium

See the last two replies u r being saying "if" navi didn't choke to LOUD, "if" gambit or fpx played internationally. Yet you have no idea if they would have been affected by travel anyway. I mean Navi and Liquid both played well at times last year and would choke in international events not held in home unlike Americas teams who play well away from home.

And Lmao taking 1/2 of my examples away yet cry when ppl call Lock-In mickey mouse. I still have multiple other examples of teams making finals away from home and u don't bc there has only been 1 EU team in history that has proven they are capable of it. And the only rzn they are is bc they choked as a team for 2 years straight and everyone who has watched valorant knows that FNC always looked great in EU and would choke at events. So it took 2 years of failure and creating the most stacked team possible from ur region for them to find success.

Argue with a wall pal the tournament location bias from riot 100% benefits EU and they don't even take advantage of it like Americas teams do. Hold this L

What is the quote for? Do you not remember how SEN, NV/OPTIC, LOUD and EG have all made finals outside of Americas?
Name me one other EU team in the 3 years of this game being played internationally that have done that. Even PRX have made finals outside of APAC multiple times.

In regards for lockin idc I disagree due to contracts and other teams having to start from scratch but even still my point above is valid and is a clear gap between the overall skill/fortitude in Americas teams vs EU.

Ofc I think fnc is a great team, but EU does not stand up as a whole to other regions🤷🏼And it's bullshit that EU has had double the rest of worlds tournaments yet don't even get an EU team in the final every time

1 of those is mickey mouse, argue with a wall IDC it is known that half the teams who went were super under practiced and u can tell by the gameplay. Just look at Liquid game
So 1/3 when they had the best team in EU by far no argument
Plus I'm talking Abt regions as a whole EU teams play like dog outside of EU and it's facts while numerous different Americas teams have proven they r finals lvl teams even outside the Americas. Name me some EU that have proven that

Crazy how EU has double the amount of tournaments hosted then the rest of the world combined🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼

If u rly don't think having to travel, adjust sleep, live somewhere unfamiliar/uncomfortable won't affect you then ur dumb. Not to mention all of those factors take time away from practicing and vod reviewing.

Stay mad the numbers don't favor ur favorite region😡😡😡

K

Why does riot constantly give EU home field advantage at tournaments?! Americas teams have made the finals on away soil 5 times yet EU has only made the finals outside of EU 2 times
Not to mention one of the 2 times was mickey mouse (Lock-In)
EU clearly does not have the mental fortitude that Americas teams have or else they would have better success away from home🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼

Had an entire year of tournaments outside of EU and yet still a huge disparity.....

0/8

An infinite amount of 0/8 baits can be annoying but he at least shows which vlr users r dumb enough to actually respond to him

The most annoying jobs require the most annoying ppl🫡🫡🫡

Gotta be between 30-40th in terms of T1 IGL's

LOL

Top 2 world right?

Very believable that you don't care yet post on the same forum🤔🤔

Blud is the only person on vlr who thinks EU means European Union🤣🤣🤣🤣

What am I watching and hearing

Bro really listed the razes that where better than zekken🤣🤣

................ sometime today?!?!?

This is ass waiting 2 hours for a bo1 that's probably just gonna be 10 duelist

Yep it sucks is that we r the worst region by far🥲

Sorry beff jesos I feel ashamed😔

Tru EG and C9 r making pay-cuts, but they aren’t working minimum wage or nothing. They still r making more than FNC players who r our best team by far. NA just has big streamers and more sponsor potential, bc different orgs based in different countries spreads it out.
I just want my region to actually win an important tournament it’s been over 2 years😭😔☹️😞

Lil bro forgot about champs where NA, EG, proved creativity and superior strats/gameplans wins

Sure some of us have good aim but there r just as many aimers in other regions too. This game requires creativity and quick thinking which we all know EMEA, especially EU, lacks. If we want to be the best region in the game we have to change our mindset from boomer, boring, CS playing the same way every game style is never going to win us champs. We fluked our way into our only champs win against plumbers and garbage men WE MUST DO BETTER

As a European my opinion is completely unbiased and true. These frauds fake flagging as EMEA believers just like trolling

Seeing C9 get diffed by LEV and FURIA has me scared for the future of EMEA since FNC only barely beat them. Imagine NRG with Ethan and Demon1 we don’t stand a chance

Extremely fucking based

Bro just pastes the same reply in every forum

Can’t point out flairs when urs is stuck in the past lil guy

No sane EMEA fan can rly think that any EMEA teams will even compare to FNC and yet FNC can’t even make top 3 in champs??!!?!?

FNC r made of the best in each role out of all EMEA yet they still can’t compete at the highest level of play in 2023 it’s over gg maybe we will be good at riots fighting game.

They pay his salary bro he had tooooooo I swearrrrrr

Shit was funny asf tho🤣🤣

Please my good sir, do not blame my KING👑 McE for the mistakes of the foolish gremlin Jack Etienne👹

How good was the EG roster rated b4 potter??? Potter is the next McE taking this new EG roster to a top 3 position in Americas GUARANTEED!!!! Not only showing how Americas is a better region (EU creates a super team with the best player in each role, except Botster, from EMEA and can’t even make top 3 in champs LMAO. Americas uses tier 2 talent and is still better) as well as solidifying herself as the mommy of valorant😤😤😤😩😫

Gonna cry?😢😭

Jawgemo
Forsaken
Ethan
Sayf
Chronicle
Nukkye
Leaf
Zekken
Fuck even shitcas on a good day is better that shitpan

-0nge1’s feeding tendencies where at an all time high this year and didn’t even call great rounds while dead
-Shitao was severely underperforming compared to last year
-Crygetsu still has crispy rounds sometimes but also clutches way less than he did b4
-Shitpan isn’t bad but he is not S tier at any agent. Other flexes show much better aim, util and coordination over him
-Arpiss/Keith had worse aim than FNS this year and looked bad at every role he played

Bro is living in the past, typical copium from some bucktooth FNC fanboy

3 T1 teams and only 1 even makes it into Semis? Just saw FNC barely beat C9, who was playing with a sub. Sure T2 teams in NA r good enough to make the games close but fuck just drop these shit EU orgs and players for T2 talent

KPI r trash lmao

“Optic don’t win if our best teams don’t have sub/Navi couldn’t go” yet one of Americas worst teams takes EMEA’s best to map 5 with a sub while being a brand new team with wayyyy less chemistry compared to the team that has made no roster moves, other than coach, in a year.

Middle East and Africa are EMEA’s only hope

You dropped this 👑

https://www.vlr.gg/event/1657/valorant-champions-2023/playoffs

Nah my b should have used this, so they actually the 2nd best EU team and still lost to shit9🤣🤣🤣🤣

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