if i had to guess, something to do with casters/analysts/production or the teams not being ready to show at 4

oh no you use alts to downfrag me on a forum, whatever shall i do!

all i hear off this is "fnatic have played together for longer"

EG got within 2 rounds of beating them but Fnatic are unbeatable, flawless logic

bluds acting like the union is gonna challenge them or somethin

i mean, u can say this stuff but at the end of the day it didn't happen, half ended 9-3 and it was basically done from there on.

alecks constantly screams at them to play circumstances differently when it comes to vods of his reactions, they just got that ego yk

bros like "if they just played better sometimes they would've won"

if EG does win this, the 2 teams i support are in GF, so no matter what i am happy lmao.

Yeah, that's fair, and the entire point i was trying to make was against what originally happened in this thread, me getting called delusional which normally causes the person attacked to call the other delusional and then the discussion goes nowhere.

Because u were willing to listen we actually ended up learning we actively agree on what u just said right now and that i was just trying to give a different perspective on the issue, which was seen as weird.

I will also add though, i don't care what people think given they think bad of me, because at the end of the day it does not matter to me what other people think, people with enough sense will actively try to communicate their point and have an open ended conversation with me on it.

U are arguing against me with a point which i agree with, i don't get why you guys arguing what your arguing and acting like this point works against mine, as i said, i do not support andrew tate nor adin ross.

Edit also just realised bro burned so many alts tryna prove a point i agree with actively, rip.

As i said, i do not actively support andrew tate or adin ross, it's not hard to read, i just know given it was someone like them, or someone like pokimane or amouranth coming out with it, for some people it'd be a differing reaction, if u already know it's fair to treat everyone equal no matter who they are there's no issue here.

once again showing the biases, if someone else who was heavily respected was accused of this, no one would use those descriptions until it was 100% proven, but because people dislike tate even without their being proof still people call him these things, u sir are exactly what i was trying to target with this message.

And i will also say, in no way do i actively support andrew tate or adin ross, they are just good case studies for this particular issue.

i know it might be hard to understand for some people, but having the ability to critical think and defending or using a point from someone controversial, is not a defence of their character, it's a defence of some factual information they said, and no matter how factual it was a broken clock is right twice a day..

u gotta learn that u don't choose to support someone through issues based off whether u like them or not, u do it because it's the decent fucking thing to do, imagine if someone like adin ross or andrew tate came out saying they struggled with mental health, everyone would use it to shit on them just like they did jordan peterson for crying about his cause, u people need a reality check.

so if it's pokimane or valkyrae or another heavily loved creator on twitch "oh no dw guys it's fine, you'll get through the hard times" but when it's xqc who has a problem he's just another statistic, someone who clearly it's his own fault for preconditioned things that he cannot control, like what the bias is showing clearly.

faraday take i agree with, never thought I'd see the day

whether it's unfair or not is a fair complaint to have, but it's never stopped the lower finals winner from winning in the past i don't think, it just gives u more incentive to win upper finals, imo

as i said, it's how people have described them, i take no credit for the nicknames

to be fair it's kinda crazy that fns' world class igling was stomped by a bunch of anime aimers (all these words are used by optic/nrg/fns lovers and prx haters, not my words)

official accounts or pros verified normally

how are u 5000 posts deep and not used to this brain damage yet

if u seriously don't know what I'm referencing, I suggest u get more well versed on the scene and stop arguing a point u don't know about then

"they're bad" and "they played bad" are two very different sentences, i suggest u go back to school

also clearly since nrg played badly at the start of masters split it makes them bad now off the logic that if u place bad u are just bad

i mean, fair enough but still who asked, like why do u let someone else's life and decisions effect u so much, stay on your hustle don't try to bring other's hustles down man smh

if she does or doesn't support them, who asked

that's what he does in the end.

she's for the streets, keep your chin up

good for you

i also did some extra research and it showed the "no emea team other than fnatic has beaten NA" but navi made it to top 4 of lock/in so clearly they beat some NA teams given some weren't in top 4, like the logic is just sad at that point, it doesn't matter what region u play against, u win or lose games, it's that simple, this whole "region is better" is just people who have way too much external pride due to their region rather than actually just supporting a team and sticking with them.

that u can argue absolutely anything and just because it can be argued for doesn't make it right or truthful

Yes, XQC is a twitch reject, i forgot.

i checked his channel and he hasn't put an actual video up in 4 months though, i see his shorts 24/7 and they are somewhat informative but it's something anyone even without knowing much about fitness would know like "oh there's a difference in being a gym creep etc" which is where he started doing shorts off, i think the most recent one i found was him making a video on which creatine was better for gaIns, to 99% of his viewers that won't matter, just hits me as the same typa advice smtn like the fitness channels which focus on the "1% improvements" who also say stuff like "if u don't do this, your missing out" to introduce fomo and make them buy your program, etc the whole industry is just so odd to me when it comes to ppl like that, i don't like people like that given i just wanna exercise, idc about getting the best physique etc so it doesn't appeal to me

i could on top of this all argue the NRG excuse that "lock/in wasn't valid event bc no one could prep for it" but of course someone who supports NA wouldn't want to bring up the fact that their own "best team in the region right now" was arguing because they couldn't prep for an event, if u only look at facts from 1 side, u will get a 1 sided opinion, that's how it works

i swear people like u are just so lost on what matters, u refused to answer the question with mindless facts about regions and current performance, while also acting as though it was relevant to what i said, didn't answer the question i asked and genuinely still think u have an argument, but i'll entertain it anyway

Argument 1, "TL Navi and Fut weren't able to beat a single pacific/america's team" 1st of all, TL played EG who currently look 2nd/3rd best in the world due to standings, same with NRG who they played lower bracket, Same exact thing happened with FUT only they had to play EG and then DRX, 2 world class S tier teams, Same exact thing happened with navi only they were playing against EDG instead of an S tier team, a team which is prep heavy went against a team they have seen legitimately nothing of because they are a completely new team, u can argue that Navi just played badly as well, everyone has off days fair enough

the argument that "America's in much stronger with more depth" may be true, but once again, the evidence that u use to corroborate that is the 2nd and 3rd best team ITW right now beat them.

u can say whatever u want as proof, but try to make evidence that actually makes any logical sense at all in the future, it took me 10 minutes of research to break your points in 2 and make them invalid.

so they played bad, what does that show?

it's the same as i say about aim, if u need to be flashy u don't have the fundamentals to back up good aim, if u don't do well in real games u look good in scrims because u likely show strats in scrims that u go ahead and use in real games, it's just not a positive way to actually measure if a teams good

idk noel but isn't sean just one of those youtubers who capitalizes off saying stuff is wrong rather than actually just giving sound advice

emea having the best team in the world doesn't = everyone else in the region being bad, it just shows them as bad because the best team in the world rn is in their region, everyone in NA looked horrible compared to optic, everyone in Pacific looked horrible when DRX was good and so forth.

also how many times do people need to prove that scrims mean absolutely nothing will it take to prove to you ppl it doesn't show their real form in actual events

furia beating levi with all the internal issues they are having (allegedly) is kinda cope imo

something which is difficult is going into a completely new team and saying bye to "the best player itw" at the time because u make the realisation that he isn't meshing with the team well, or because of money issues, or because of whatever reason u wanna make up in your head, and he still made it work, that takes real talent imo

i mean it's easy to adjust to a new meta given u have 5 world class players, it's easy to create new strats which other teams cannot run, especially with agents others don't run purely because your players win aim duels, it's not difficult to do that imo

may as well do it in case, no down side for me

if they do or don't, it's what was gonna happen anyway my words don't effect anything

no official stream because the streams are purposefully given out to the biggest valorant watchers in the continent i thought no, for example spain is lembo, italian sparkler for the fokus game and they switch between some of the biggest streamers in the area on a game to game basis, i thought everyone knew that's how it works

Edit: this might not be officially sponsored or endorsed by riot, but it's not hard to figure out

cool but who asked

agree that kk needs a better team

unironically, will hopefully be a very nice game, given EG beat PRX, even if it's fnatic vs prx i expect a good game, no way to lose here, pretty nice.

if anything ardiis is the matchfixer here