damn that's stupid as hell. ty for explaining though
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damn that's stupid as hell. ty for explaining though
if 100t somehow get 3rd, theyll be on 10 points
if nrg get 4th, theyll have 9 points.
nrg won the most recent match vs mibr, and lost a match to mibr earlier in the year so they should be 1-1 in h2h. idk if ewc is counted but if it is then nrg is 2-1 vs mibr.
wouldn't this mean that if that scenario was to happen then, 100t would qual off points as 3rd seed then nrg quals as 4th seed due to h2h?
unless im wrong somewhere
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i don't think you can blame a player because even if you replaced asuna with zekken this team wouldve gotten annihilated here. they just look like headless chickens running around hoping for the best. asuna is also being misused because he shouldn't be on duelist.
no i'm not saying save eeiu because of the kills. its because he quite literally looks like the only one whos even able to compete with anyone on g2. i don't think we can blame him for not making the right call like droning because clearly the whole team's mental was just fucked. i also remember eeiu winning a few rounds for them singlehandedly. but yeah, what a fucking shitshow, i stayed up till 7 am for this eye cancer lol
you're right, but the fact that theyre not doing it at ALL except like 1 map is insane to me. that 1 map also happens to be where they run asuna on yoru alongside it (corrode), and it looked very good last time. as to why they didnt pick corrode vs g2 is beyond me. zikz masterclass ig
he's just an awful coach. asuna is a flex player who's being perma forced on entry duelist and he looks like a drug addict. cryo is dogshit at everything except shooting, his best agent is not meta so at least put him on chamber who's been buffed. they legit just at the very minimum need a better coach, theyve looked lost for 2 years - the shanghai run now
it's honestly a bit unacceptable for a team to look this lost in tier 1. i know there's cope of "but theyre vs g2", it's not acceptable anyways. you cant blame any player in particular because the issue was teamplay, they legit looked like a ranked team who've never spoken to eachother. i can only think that zikz is to blame because this level of teamplay comes from horrible coaching. and these comps are legit terrorism, why is cryo on yoru? this makes no sense. if i was to talk about the players,
asuna on duelist is terrorism,
zander's calling was terrorism,
cryo baiting on yoru is eye bleach worthy,
kess nt bro at least you did decent towards the end of haven,
and save eeiu
SAVE EEIU PLEASE
he also had ult, definitely could have played better yeah. unlucky, i think the whole team's mental was just cooked. save eeiu
nah you gotta drop the bait this time, this is legit sad to watch. this guy is the only one actually doing anything, was their best player last year too
zikz, 110%. cryo has his issues but these comps are legit a finable offense. chamber buff and this guy puts fucking cryo on yoru.
asuna yoru, cryo chamber. that's what g2 does on some maps and it works. asuna is a 400x better yoru than cryo and cryo is one of the best chambers itw. zikz is just a cryptothrower
mental broken, theyre just running around doing fuck all to try making something work. please get anyone bro i dont want zikz anymore
i never said asuna is at jaw's level, theyre simply similar mechanics wise and have a similar playstyle. jaw overall is better at pretty much everything else and i literally never said otherwise. the whole point was to show that theyre similar but no one says anything about jaw because jaw has a better support cast even though he himself drops stinkers very often.
where the fuck do you see me defending the org i literally just called them collegiate, wtf? the players are not bad, they just have no coordination with eachother, and that's painfully obvious. i literally blame none of them specifically. simply bad teamplay
you are silver max. the funny thing is you probably still think this is asuna's fault when the team looks like a collegiate team. but nonetheless, you still cant disregard a single point i made so, you do you.
good job showing your bias. did you forget what asuna did vs loud? or does that not fit your narrative? lol.
never once mentioned asuna being selfless, did mention a lotta other stuff though. feel free to go through that if you have the reading comprehension for it. you just have a hate boner for the guy so you dont wanna acknowledge a single one of his strengths. you tried saying you used to be one of his fans to try making it not obvious. you're retarded and clueless.
#48, #51. read for once.
you believe cryo is the best player on the team, so yeah this debate is pointless. you're lost from the start.
this argument/debate was fun but now we're just going in circles because people don't look past stats so i'll take my leave. good day.
oh so you're just stupid. got it. you either didn't read a single thing i sent or don't have the brainpower to understand any of it. i literally gave like 50 paragraphs worth of points signifying his importance on the team but oh well. average vlr user cares about nothing but stats, keep doing that.
you're also one of those who thinks cryo is the best player on the team so, this debate was never worth having the first place. fyi 90% of his kills are eco frags, if you know what that even means.
this argument/debate was fun but now we're just going in circles because people don't look past stats so i'll take my leave. good day.
if you've got nothing but insults to offer and no way to refute a single point i made besides "he's been here so long!!!" then you might as well just not type anything and stay quiet.
Probably once more if they make the right move. Which is dropping Cryo for a proper duelist, or dropping kess for a proper duelist and moving Cryo to sentinel. A head coach change wouldn’t hurt either. But I’ve said this already. Again, I don’t understand your obsession with the idea that hes been here a while. That doesn’t make him bad.
I promise you if Asuna was on g2 instead of Jawgemo they would win just as much.
You didn’t get my point. It wasn’t to say that jaw is bad or that Asuna is better. It was to highlight that both are good and are mechanically similar. It’s just that one receives far more hate than the other for whatever reason. Jaw was indeed an integral part of his champions winning roster, I hail him as a great player. I simply think Asuna is also a great player.
And no jaw is not > Asuna right now mechanically. Their stats are very much equal. One just has a significantly better supporting cast.
The point was to highlight the unfair treatment of one party when both are similar, not to bring one down.
In case you forgot, the site you’re using is free. You can see that they literally have identical stats lol.
No you just don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re trying to make points when you have zero understanding of the game. I made a bold claim about jawgemo that is backed by the stats you love so much and you have no way of proving me wrong because it’s true. Again, thanks for proving me right.
What a nice way to say you’ve got no rebuttal. At least try to argue against it, because since you love stats so much; the stats literally back my claim.
Thanks for proving my point that you have no idea what you’re talking about, good day.
This is why I said you have no idea what you’re talking about. Because you still have the idea in your head that Asuna is meant to be a duelist player when he’s simply not. He shouldn’t be on duelist. And neither is he by far the worst duelist in na besides icy. Look at jawgemo, he is quite literally the same player as Asuna with identical mechanics, he just happens to have a better supporting cast so no one says shit about him.
You don’t understand the value he brings to the team because you don’t know what he’s capable of. You’ve seen what he does on duelist and advocate for an upgrade when that’s not his main role.
And yes, Asuna CAN play any agent you put him on. He has NOT looked putrid by any sense of the word. Omen on icebox is legit terrorist behavior that I see teams try every year only to fail, I don’t count this. He looked decent on it anyways, nothing special.
The idea of “5 years no results” literally means nothing. This is a team game not a solo game. Every single one of his ex teammates has praised him, his vocals and his game IQ. Why do you people insist on going against it? He has shown what he’s capable of, literally anytime you put him on an agent that requires utility usage, you can see how good he is at it. And he is absolutely mechanically gifted, you’re just convinced he isn’t because he’s on a role that he’s not meant to be on.
And one more thing, something no one brings attention to is the fact that Asuna simply doesn’t have a good supporting cast when he’s on duelist. Not because his teammates are bad, but rather because they don’t support him the way, for example, G2 support jaw.
If anything, Cryo has had too many chances and has shown nothing for it. Is he a good player? Mechanically, yeah. But he quite literally brings nothing else. He has an awful agent pool, a play style far too passive for the roles he does play, and he can’t play the role of star player that he was originally signed for.
I can see why someone would be frustrated with Asuna as a player but you have to look at everything he does and understand that without him this team would literally be dogshit.
You think Asuna is the problem on the team when he’s the only reason the team is even functional.
He plays hyper aggressive for a team full of passive players, fills the gaps in all the role issues the team has and can quite literally play any agent you put him on. He mid rounds with eeiu, he has good comms and calls, and he’s performing well on a role that he himself doesn’t consider his best.
Dropping Asuna is legit the most brain dead move the org can do, you either drop Cryo for a full time duelist and move Asuna to secondary duelist/flex initiator or you drop kess and make Cryo senti then pick up a full time duelist. Dropping Asuna legit does nothing and you’ll see how much worse the team becomes.
The only other change they need to do is potentially a head coach change, that is all.
It is so obvious that you have no idea what you’re talking about lol.
I’m not sure about reduxx as I’m not too invested in T2, but I’ve seen timotino and he looked pretty good. Penny as well. They could also go for someone from another region. Unlikely but maybe Derke if nadeshot is in the mood to spend.
A head coach change would also be nice but I literally do not have anyone in mind for this besides potter and she’s in jail.
By no means is Cryo a bad player. But these people on VLR literally just see stats and proceed to call Asuna bad when he’s in my opinion the second best player on the team behind eeiu. The fact that he was rated like 7th something before this game and he’s not even on his best role of flex initiator is crazy. People just don’t like the guy for some reason when he’s insane.
The best move is dropping Cryo for a good entry duelist and letting Asuna play flex ini + Yoru.
you do realize that the whole reason why he has these very low lows is because he's on a role that isn't best suited for him right? he would fit any ecosystem, it's very clear that he's being asked to play this way. you really think that if they didn't want this guy running it down they wouldnt stop him?
he's being asked to play like this and he's on the duelist role because that's what the team needs. he's filling the gaps that are caused by his teammates. i guarantee you if he got to play flex on any team lets him he would flourish as one of the best players na has to offer.
first vlr 100t suggestion that isn't braindead. cryo definitely should not play yoru though, stick to jett and senti
yeah, it really just seems like zikz doesnt have a good grasp on the meta or the ability to form proper strats. it always feels like the team is just running around hoping for the best or winning rounds off hero plays.
zikz imo can definitely be a good assistant coach, but a good head coach who makes strats that the team can follow and bring out the best of their players is necessary (please potter).
both the coaching problem and cryo imo should be rectified, at the very LEAST one of them has to be.
i think it's fair to look at the stats and think cryo is an incredible player, because truly he does have good aim. but also look at this way, what does cryo have to offer? aim. aim is not hard to find, i'm sure there are plenty of talented prospects who offer that along with the ability to be a proper functional duelist. i think your idea of dropping zander for a duelist to shift with cryo and moving asuna to flex is viable, but it could also lead to the same problems happening all over again.
yeah cryo's probably the best iso and he actually is in my opinion the best jett in americas as well. but here comes another problem, neither iso nor jett are actual meta picks. and those 2 are also the only agents cryo can actually play well. keeping cryo imo is just not good for the team. the one situation where they COULD keep cryo is dropping boostio, moving cryo to full-time senti and zander could pickup igling. but this is a risk because even if its fun to shit on boostio for his god awful performances, he's a tested igl who has won champs. and for what it's worth, at his peak boostio is extremely talented.
i really just think the best course of action is to drop cryo for a good duelist and try getting potter somehow.
drop cryo for a good duelist, either from t2 or somehow try getting mada from nrg. get potter for hc and make zikz ac.
people constantly shit on asuna when he's the one whos sacrificing himself for cryo. i'm not tryna say cryo is bad but there are definitely better players that actually play all duelists that 100t can try to get.
the biggest issue that this team has is the abundance of role issues that legit fuck everyone on the roster up, including the two that have somewhat consistent roles.
boostio had to flex onto initiator for the entirety of kickoff and stage 1 while managing his sentinel role along with it; which caused him to have to play two different playstyles and we can see the effects of that right now. asuna has to play duelist because cryo is incapable of playing entry duelist, this causes asuna to play like shit. the role where asuna shines is flash initiator/flex but instead he is just forced to be the sacrificial lamb so cryo can be comfortable and go in to trade him.
their entire goal is to make cryo succeed and play well but he is simply not even consistent enough to do this. again, no shade to cryo.
i think they just need to, as i said before, drop cryo for a good duelist that can match his aim which im sure is possible. (would love mada). this would allow asuna to be full time flash/flex and boostio to be comfortable on his sentinel role given time.
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