yeah lmao
I remember I kept checking in every few hours and it slowly went down from 30 to 0 😭
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yeah lmao
I remember I kept checking in every few hours and it slowly went down from 30 to 0 😭
tbh I don't even think he was baiting
I lied. If some how I do make it... Everyone in this thread is getting this treatment:
https://youtu.be/XCN4HXZNU7M?t=266
So you think that because people have a hard time learning something, we should lower the bar? Make it easier? I don't follow. I don't know what school was like for you but the cliff notes of Hamlet is not the same as reading Hamlet. The eternal dumbing down of information to please people has left us with a messy situation. I promise you, lowering yourself to the level of "20 year old tiktok brained gamers" is not the way my friend. I also had a full-time job leading a 12 person team. We find time.
And Elevated, I'm responding to you because I know who you are. Your line about having no connections is not congruent with reality.
Sorry, I can read an insult when I see it. A lot of people jumped in without context. The purpose of this thread has some how turned to me. I'm okay with that. I'm willing to defend my work and die on a hill for it.
I don't believe in the lazy approach that these coaches take. I'm not going to take to heart comments from people who pursue the easy way. I believe their win records reflect these positions. I think that they waste the time of players by making it comfortable and easy for them. The players should be upset because they are all on a clock. Delivering picture books to players and losing is not what I would want to spend my money on if I was an org owner either.
A couple months ago, Zikz and 100T put out an open call for coaching.
I spent 2 weeks putting a tremendous amount of time and effort to create these two analysis reports:
100T Icebox
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zYRtRbyClNjJXx-vbA2X6s64IlaVGfhV/view?usp=drive_link
FNC Haven
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kE90FXjCtj_qaXCOp-j0pInVEdqL1KEz/view?usp=drive_link
Despite the effort, despite reaching out to Zikz two weeks after the deadline for any word, I was ghosted. Only to find out that your average VCT scouting/analysis report is 1/200th the size.
The reason I'm bringing this up is because I'm tired of seeing Nadeshot and 100 Thieves continue the narrative that they are trying everything they can. They simply are not. They are just continuing the one thing that has plagued esports, cronyism. The normal size of an analysis report in VCT is 1-2 pages. For a game that is supposed to be "TACTICAL" ... how do you fit a scouting report into one page?
How does Nadeshot and the 100T organization pay for such mediocracy when people put real effort into their applications? Esports needs to stop being a revolving door.
I used ChatGPT to edit grammar. I'm more than happy to share my unedited version.
45 vlr readers believe picture books are better than research. I'm shocked. (edited for clarity)
Unfortunately in the world of competitive sports we are measured by wins and losses. No offense but I'm going to pass on your advice.
Did you just answer your own question? I would hope you don't think this would just be handed over with no explanation...
Also the AI generated comment, it's probably stuffed somewhere deep in this thread but that's chatgpt's form of grammar edits. More than happy to produce the original. My bad that I'm not a PhD candidate English level writer.
First, none of this truly matters. If you're reading this post please consider donating to the victims of the Los Angeles fires:
https://secure.lafoodbank.org/site/Donation2?df_id=1800&mfc_pref=T&1800.donation=form1
Second, someone cool helped me out with my submission and I want to give him a shoutout, Nabil Elouahabi, basically gave me a bunch of dialogue that I created a fun video for my submission. He has a Cameo page and you should check it out ( https://www.cameo.com/valorant1973 )
Third, I think a couple of important people jumped to conclusions about my work. I don’t think you can fit my system into the traditional way of doing things. While I appreciate their critiques, their time spent was a bit misguided.
I would also like to take the time to again point out the current state of the landscape. We see what the current work leads to. My comments about the size of the analysis that is handed over to players should alarm you as a viewer. You cannot truly believe that handing a one page response to a player is anything close to professional. If you disagree with me, I would point you to HBO specials like Hard Knock: https://www.hbo.com/hard-knocks . Just look at the binders they carry around. That sort of preparation is what leads to amazing sports moments. Talent needs knowledge to thrive. Many people do not have this knowledge required so they make it about other things.
Thank you to the people who took the time to read my work. Good or bad, if you actually took the time to read it, I appreciate you.
The context that is missing from the critiques is that my work leads to discussions. The number one rule in any sort of strategy effort is that your perfect plan is going to fail. The sizing of this is supposed to acknowledge that. There needs to be a foundation from which knowledge can grow.
A one page analysis of your analysts thoughts and conclusions is not going to get you there. You don’t know any of the inputs such as their skill and knowledge of the subject, how they are feeling, what experience they have in composing documents that require them to be non-bias or even if they had a bad breakfast.
I spent some time on individual players. But I think many of my critics think it is just the 100T and FNC players. Nope, it was 19 different teams.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SJK_Brlfyf0urXM0rbqdXmpk6qgad_9Z?usp=drive_link
I didn’t feel like I could adequately give an analysis report without doing the film. So in addition to my work and research into the players, I needed to see the games that the past teams played to see if there were any adjustments in the way they played. An analysis would be pointless if it was an entirely different roster/comp/coach.
So what I did was cut every single game into rounds. From each of those rounds I created a mini-map focused video. This way I could see at a high level what is usually missed in analysis work if you were purely using VCT footage.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1U02rpKLO580ozSZ04tqUrgYrfYfHlsE2?usp=drive_link
Once again, the goal of my work is not the output. It’s the path I journey to get to a place of expertise that can then be utilized by the organization.
I'm not going to attack anyone individually but I would just like to point out that my work is a direct attack on theirs. To see what someone is capable of and then to have to look at your work product can produce jealousy. As people in positions of privilege they should look at my work and applaud it. I tried and produced something of value. It's just weird that you would take 10 minutes of skimming it to try and destroy it. That's some shameful stuff. Do better.
I think I'm just going to respond to this one. I think certain people are being unprofessional. I understand that this person has had a hard time dealing with organizations and people who have different opinions to them. I'm simply not going to engage.
In the data, you can see why these teams do not perform at the level they should. If you mix the tracker ranked data with the data of previous performances, it gives you a pretty clear idea of how they will perform.
I don't think there is enough discussion and agreement on the fundamentals. The conversations that come out of those are more towards unification of ideas. If a player feels that holding on site is the best way to do something and you have a player on the opposite side of that then that's a discussion you should have. And there are hundreds of those discussions to be had all across the map. Everyone has to be on the same page or the house of cards can collapse.
On top of this, you pretty much need to have a mutual understanding of how your teammates are going to respond to things. You're 100% right that they have 8k hours combined but all of that is from different perspectives.
And to your idea about money, one of the greatest coaches of all time meditated with his players. I challenge your notion that it would be a waste of time.
Last thing I'm going to say on this thread.
If the popular way to do things worked then it would work.
100T's Coaching staff pretended to go outside and preyed on people's dreams. That's not cool. The simple fact is that me and many others were not talked to and they ended up with a tier 2 coach and a radiant player.
I just wanted to draw attention to that fact. The fact that Nadeshot talks about how he tried to do everything and here is a good example where the effort level was near zero.
If you don't like my work, that's fine. Like I said, if the current meta for coaching was a working system, we would have successful coaches. But in reality, we don't. Most coaches have a negative win rate. I'm just trying to be an advocate for the community. I think you deserve better. I think you deserve people who do more work than less.
Sorry if you disagree.
Last thing I'm going to say on this thread.
If the popular way to do things worked then it would work.
100T's Coaching staff pretended to go outside and preyed on people's dreams. That's not cool. The simple fact is that me and many others were not talked to and they ended up with a tier 2 coach and a radiant player.
I just wanted to draw attention to that fact. The fact that Nadeshot talks about how he tried to do everything and here is a good example where the effort level was near zero.
If you don't like my work, that's fine. Like I said, if the current meta for coaching was a working system, we would have successful coaches. But in reality, we don't. Most coaches have a negative win rate. I'm just trying to be an advocate for the community. I think you deserve better. I think you deserve people who do more work than less.
Sorry if you disagree.
im yoinking this, this is great
fuck
i was typing with one hand
(I was eating before you ask)
is the insider source the goat duelist player on the 2025 ascension winning team: The Cloudberries?
this guy I think
https://www.vlr.gg/player/15051/sacred
Surely someone as gifted with numbers as you are understands that's not the actual win loss accumulation of those teams right?
this can be implemented alongside another flair (i.e. you can have an org + player or org + org)
@enigma
what'll it take ill do anything
Skimmed through this. While its a ton of info there's not an easily readable amount of information. While you included executes and what they used I don't see a default section at all. Only player movements. My advice in the future is to break it down in a simple direction. Most teams will use one of a number of defaults when working map control. Obviously these can be faked however your team would then at least know off of maybe a recon and stun what the enemy team is roughly doing and their positions. A lot what you included isn't actually helpful except for some of the postplant locations. Its an impressive amount of work but its focused in the wrong areas to help a team.
This for instance is much more helpful because you'll see this actually happen immediately a lot. By going over this my players would know roughly where the enemy team is and can weigh whether they want to take space or overrotate or be ready for something.
ngl I lowkey felt bad for him until he started crashing out at people for critiquing him
bluds thread was so generational that he got vlr devs to actually add something new 😭😭
https://i.imgur.com/0uIuO0g.png
https://i.imgur.com/ksgAAGC.png
(can we get another flair option pretty please)
honestly Deryeon + Kr1stal + UdoTan seem like a very nice core, I think they should try Kr1stals IGLing sine iirc PapiChulo is IGLing rn
(I know Deryeon is temp, but I hope they'll consider keeping him around)
idk why but the term 'furia apologist' is so funny 😭😭
Unfortunately Falcons would probably never be allowed in to Riot's partnership system (even through ascension) due to their rules about org ownership
but you gotta realise
if GE gets kicked, they'll more than likely be replaced by a non Indian org
actually yeah, I am overrating EMEA a bit. I will edit my original ranking
yeah I agree with #2 18 is too much
Aspas, Valyn, Verno, Ethan, yay
Liquid would benefit from a management change maybe
I would give them at least that before calling to have them cut entirely
This is a rough power ranking imo:
G2
EMEA #1 + EDG
APAC #1 + EMEA #2
AMER #2 + TE
APAC #2
holy shit I knew someone exactly like this 😭😭
last I heard about that guy was he didn't end up getting in to uni... wonder what he's up to now
This thread is a rollercoaster.
Initially I thought what you did was cool, but I didn't have the time to go read through the documents.
Then people who read the documents called you out.
I thought, 'oh fair enough, maybe it's not what it seems to be at first glance, but I'll give this guy the benefit of the doubt, maybe he's just new to this and will use this as a learning opportunity'.
Then this reply where you choose to die on the hill and even accuse experienced coaches of 'jealously'', proceeding to throw away any good will I had for you. You're taking the criticism personally/emotionally and that's inherently something which makes you a bad fit for the role.
Yeah getting ghosted sucks, but that's just how it is nowadays when applying for jobs. You have to be able to admit when you're wrong, and that as I previously said is most likely a key quality to have as a coach/analyst.
To me it's horrible that multiple coaches actually did take time out of their day to read and constructively critique your document, just for you to spit all over that with this reply.
Vegans don't eat or drink things like eggs or milk (anything that comes from animals)
Vegetarians only don't eat meat
(for men)
I'm tryna see something
I'll say my height later when there's more replies (I don't wanna skew anything)
zeek and kiles vs d3ffo in 2025
(also doma is here)
2021 is so back and I'm here for it
TS RRQ not worth betting on
FUT has an ok upset chance but not worth betting on
MIBR hasn't convinced me enough to bet on them
I'm not vegan so I can't say for sure
but I think it's not that they hate meat, they hate that you have to kill animals to eat meat
dort why did you disappear when NRG were losing
🐐 (we need you back in tier 1)
'This is his world and we're just living in it'
I really disagree with what you say for EMEA (it's also exactly what we have rn)
EMEA is lacking: A German org, a CIS org (NAVI is less keen on picking up non Ukrainian CIS talent, so they are effectively an EU org) and a MENA org
I think a lot can be attributed to his win in 2021
NA CS was dying (some might say already long dead even) and Valorant was the first FPS game to challenge CS in a long time, so there was definitely a hole in the NA FPS esports scene.
The sinatraa controversy drew a lot of eyes to the team and org, who were still pretty successful prior, I think that initial controversy is what gave SEN that initial interest that carried on further.
Then TenZ came along, he was already decently big in the scene since he was the first Radiant in NA. He played on C9 but a lot of attention was drawn to him when he pretty much announced his retirement, only to later be picked up to SEN as a sub.
Those three things combined made SEN an interesting team to watch going in to Masters 2, Valorant's first international event.
But what really gave him (and SEN) his popularity was his insane performance at Masters 2, going undefeated without dropping a map.
Oh yeah one more thing, everyone was stuck at home indoors due to the pandemic so viewership in general was thriving, that was also definitely a factor.
I think BLG and XLG make it here
but I'm not informed enough to make an accurate pred
yup
I don't think we'll be at a level where we compete for trophies until both; A: Leo comes back, B: Kaajak has a year, maybe two of tier 1 experience
can i see his deathmatch stats too
yeah good odds, ima bet on them too
GENG looked way too shaky against RRQ for my liking
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