tbh, they're so good. Maybe still below EU (CIS)/NA but imo 3rd strongest region atm
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OzyMeister [#2]2nd Strongest
APAC > NA
Not APAC, only SEA :)). Indian teams are not same level as them
valulrantefanboy [#4]Not APAC, only SEA :)). Indian teams are not same level as them
comparing Subregion with a Region makes no sense
valulrantefanboy [#4]Not APAC, only SEA :)). Indian teams are not same level as them
looks like youre obsessed with indian mr valulrantefanboy
https://www.vlr.gg/76684/indian-chill
W_Hold [#3]tbh, they're so good. Maybe still below EU (CIS)/NA but imo 3rd strongest region atm
2nd Strongest
APAC > NA
Grumsy [#6]looks like youre obsessed with indian mr valulrantefanboy
https://www.vlr.gg/76684/indian-chill
Not obsessed, only facts
valulrantefanboy [#4]Not APAC, only SEA :)). Indian teams are not same level as them
Bonkers alone>>>NA+EU wym
OzyMeister [#5]comparing Subregion with a Region makes no sense
because sea actually proved themselves international unlike the other 2 subregions (oce and sa)
valulrantefanboy [#8]Not obsessed, only facts
Like I said if you are comparing regions with regions it makes sense
also everyone knows SEA >> SA there's a reason SEA makes up 75% of APAC teams while SA is 10%
ItsMeDio [#7]2nd Strongest
APAC > NA
Not APAC, only SEA :)). Indian teams are not same level as them
Slashyiguess [#10]because sea actually proved themselves international unlike the other 2 subregions (oce and sa)
But that doesnt matter, its like when someone says EMEA>NA and the other person interjects and says "no, only CIS,EU>NA. Turkish teams are not same level as them." Just dumb
OzyMeister [#13]Like I said if you are comparing regions with regions it makes sense
also everyone knows SEA >> SA there's a reason SEA makes up 75% of APAC teams while SA is 10%
Sa has tons of team they are just not as good
valulrantefanboy [#4]Not APAC, only SEA :)). Indian teams are not same level as them
So when someone says EMEA>NA. Do you say "no only EU>NA, turkish teams not as same level as them"?
Slashyiguess [#10]because sea actually proved themselves international unlike the other 2 subregions (oce and sa)
SEA is a subregion too under APAC also SA and OCE are playing VCT for 1st time
sure SEA is better than OCE SA and HK/TW and that is why them make 75% of the slots in APAC but still a subregion nonetheless
wizardbot [#15]But that doesnt matter, its like when someone says EMEA>NA and the other person interjects and says "no, only CIS,EU>NA. Turkish teams are not same level as them." Just dumb
exactly xD It just shows how some people have personal grudges against certain nations TR India BR are some to name a few
wizardbot [#17]So when someone says EMEA>NA. Do you say "no only EU>NA, turkish teams not as same level as them"?
bro why the fuck are u guys so offended??? sea is clearly better than sa tho , not even trying to be toxic its just facts
delusional_paperrex_fan [#16]Sa has tons of team they are just not as good
and that is why they get 2 slots in APAC meanwhile SEA gets 15 I don't understand whats there to be mad about ? xD
delusional_paperrex_fan [#11]EU > SEA > NA > KR > BR > SA > JP
Imo NA still slightly better than SEA
OzyMeister [#18]SEA is a subregion too under APAC also SA and OCE are playing VCT for 1st time
sure SEA is better than OCE SA and HK/TW and that is why them make 75% of the slots in APAC but still a subregion nonetheless
it would still make sense to compare sea to other regions since sea went international (masters and champions) they have achievements to back them up, it would make no sense to add SA and OCE because what could you possibly say about them? no offense of course
Gaeman [#14]Not APAC, only SEA :)). Indian teams are not same level as them
comparing Subregion with a Region makes no sense
delusional_paperrex_fan [#21]bro why the fuck are u guys so offended??? sea is clearly better than sa tho , not even trying to be toxic its just facts
I already know SEA is better than SA. Him pointing out Indian teams are not as good as them when the discussion was about APAC as a whole was just showing his bias against Indian teams, hence I replied.
W_Hold [#3]tbh, they're so good. Maybe still below EU (CIS)/NA but imo 3rd strongest region atm
Bruhhhhh, this is copy pasta why guys replyin to this xD
valulrantefanboy [#4]Not APAC, only SEA :)). Indian teams are not same level as them
Muthafucker gatekeeping whole sub-regions now.
delusional_paperrex_fan [#21]bro why the fuck are u guys so offended??? sea is clearly better than sa tho , not even trying to be toxic its just facts
We already know SEA is better than SA. Him pointing out Indian teams are not as good as them when the discussion was about APAC as a whole was just showing his bias against Indian teams, hence I replied.
delusional_paperrex_fan [#11]EU > SEA > NA > KR > BR > SA > JP
I think JP = SA since Northeption did really good in the APAC LCQ
Sprouts [#30]I think JP = SA since Northeption did really good in the APAC LCQ
this new zeta roster actually looks dangerous
delusional_paperrex_fan [#11]EU > SEA > NA > KR > BR > SA > JP
skipped Turkey and Latam and HK/TW and China and OCE and Middle East
this is what happens when you mix regions and subregions
Sprouts [#30]I think JP = SA since Northeption did really good in the APAC LCQ
even though JP teams look way stronger now , im gonna wait till jp playoffs then properly rate them
Slashyiguess [#24]it would still make sense to compare sea to other regions since sea went international (masters and champions) they have achievements to back them up, it would make no sense to add SA and OCE because what could you possibly say about them? no offense of course
they went international coz they got slots to play internationally SA and OCE are playing VCT for 1st time
OzyMeister [#32]skipped Turkey and Latam and HK/TW and China and OCE and Middle East
this is what happens when you mix regions and subregions
bro why the fuck are u so offended just fucking shut up please for fucks sake
delusional_paperrex_fan [#35]bro why the fuck are u so offended just fucking shut up please for fucks sake
I'm not offended lmao seems like you are I wrote a valid point
a team from LATAM was 4th in Champs last year ( Region you skipped)
meanwhile JP despite having shit ton of slots both in Masters and Champs and LCQ didn't do shit
OzyMeister [#34]they went international coz they got slots to play internationally SA and OCE are playing VCT for 1st time
that's not my point 🤦♂️
I know you guys didn't get a chance to play vct hence why it doesn't make sense to add them in a comparison between SEA and other regions.
OzyMeister [#37]I'm not offended lmao seems like you are I wrote a valid point
a team from LATAM was 4th in Champs last year ( Region you skipped)
meanwhile JP despite having shit ton of slots both in Masters and Champs and LCQ didn't do shit
CIS > EU > SEA > NA > KR > LATAM > TR > BR > JP > OCE > CN > HK/TW > ME >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SA
happy now retard
Slashyiguess [#38]that's not my point 🤦♂️
I know you guys didn't get a chance to play vct hence why it doesn't make sense to add them in a comparison between SEA and other regions.
coz SEA isn't a region anymore THATS WHY
its APAC in 2022 with all the circuit points shit combined
APAC has 8 subregions which are MY/SG TH ID VN PH SA OCE HK/TW
DrudaL [#25]comparing Subregion with a Region makes no sense
because sea actually proved themselves international unlike the other 2 subregions (oce and sa)
delusional_paperrex_fan [#40]CIS > EU > SEA > NA > KR > LATAM > TR > BR > JP > OCE > CN > HK/TW > ME >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SA
happy now retard
JP?
bruddah [#39]what the fuck is this thread
ind fans and this ozymeister kid getting offended because valuruntefanboy said sea > sa
W_Hold [#27]Bruhhhhh, this is copy pasta why guys replyin to this xD
the whole thing is copypasta lol
delusional_paperrex_fan [#40]CIS > EU > SEA > NA > KR > LATAM > TR > BR > JP > OCE > CN > HK/TW > ME >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SA
happy now retard
SEA isn't a region anymore
its APAC in 2022 with all the circuit points shit combined
APAC has 8 subregions which are MY/SG TH ID VN PH SA OCE HK/TW
Marty [#31]this new zeta roster actually looks dangerous
i hope they can keep up should they make masters, i want to see a win for the JPN community
delusional_paperrex_fan [#44]ind fans and this ozymeister kid getting offended because valuruntefanboy said sea > sa
😂😂😂
OzyMeister [#46]SEA isn't a region anymore
its APAC in 2022 with all the circuit points shit combined
APAC has 8 subregions which are MY/SG TH ID VN PH SA OCE HK/TW
"SEA isn't a region anymore
its APAC in 2022 with all the circuit points shit combined
APAC has 8 subregions which are MY/SG TH ID VN PH SA OCE HK/TW" 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
delusional_paperrex_fan [#49]"SEA isn't a region anymore
its APAC in 2022 with all the circuit points shit combined
APAC has 8 subregions which are MY/SG TH ID VN PH SA OCE HK/TW" 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
speaking facts why you offended xD
does SEA have a combined qualifier?
OzyMeister [#51]speaking facts why you offended xD
does SEA have a combined qualifier?
"speaking facts why you offended xD
does SEA have a combined qualifier?" -🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
delusional_paperrex_fan [#44]ind fans and this ozymeister kid getting offended because valuruntefanboy said sea > sa
lmao SA sends more players to APAC than Malaysia keep crying xD
delusional_paperrex_fan [#52]"speaking facts why you offended xD
does SEA have a combined qualifier?" -🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
seems like you've gone full clown mode xD
OzyMeister [#53]lmao SA sends more players to APAC than Malaysia keep crying xD
bro??? Malaysia population 30mil , sa population 1billion+ plus nobody in my plays valorant
also + https://www.vlr.gg/60420/global-esports-vs-kingsmen-bleed-esports-christmas-showdown-main-event-qf 🤡🤡
OzyMeister [#54]seems like you've gone full clown mode xD
"seems like you've gone full clown mode xD" 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Acro_ [#55]?
besides davai there's no one from Malaysia again I dont hate any region but this pathetic gatekeeper needs to be told some facts
delusional_paperrex_fan [#56]bro??? Malaysia population 30mil , sa population 1billion+ plus nobody in my plays valorant
also + https://www.vlr.gg/60420/global-esports-vs-kingsmen-bleed-esports-christmas-showdown-main-event-qf 🤡🤡
didnt even Qualify omegalul
OzyMeister [#53]lmao SA sends more players to APAC than Malaysia keep crying xD
Kingsmen still solos ur region
OzyMeister [#59]besides davai there's no one from Malaysia again I dont hate any region but this pathetic gatekeeper needs to be told some facts
"besides davai there's no one from Malaysia again I dont hate any region but this pathetic gatekeeper needs to be told some facts"
-🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
says someone who got so offended when someone said SEA > SA lol
ItsMeDio [#42]because sea actually proved themselves international unlike the other 2 subregions (oce and sa)
But that doesnt matter, its like when someone says EMEA>NA and the other person interjects and says "no, only CIS,EU>NA. Turkish teams are not same level as them." Just dumb
OzyMeister [#60]didnt even Qualify omegalul
no namers will shit on ge , but ge prob wont even be in the winners bracket
delusional_paperrex_fan [#62]"besides davai there's no one from Malaysia again I dont hate any region but this pathetic gatekeeper needs to be told some facts"
-🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
says someone who got so offended when someone said SEA > SA lol
I legit mention 5 times that SEA >> SA all I was saying is SEA as a region doesnt exist anymore since there is no combined qualifier xD
OzyMeister [#60]didnt even Qualify omegalul
imagine a country that has no players in apac is still better than your whole region HAHAHAHA that's sad af
OzyMeister [#65]I legit mention 5 times that SEA >> SA all I was saying is SEA as a region doesnt exist anymore since there is no combined qualifier xD
bro they merged sea sa and oce because sa dont deserve their own masters slot thats why they merge them together
delusional_paperrex_fan [#64]no namers will shit on ge , but ge prob wont even be in the winners bracket
so what ? I never denied Singaporean teams are better than Indian teams
yaiima0 [#23]Imo NA still slightly better than SEA
yes agree. NA still had c9 and the guard looking great
KiwisAreAwesome [#47]i hope they can keep up should they make masters, i want to see a win for the JPN community
Would be cool to see an all Japanese roster win too, since the majority of the major teams are carried by Russians or Koreans
Slashyiguess [#66]imagine a country that has no players in apac is still better than your whole region HAHAHAHA that's sad af
literally only like 7 malaysian teams and only 2 are signed
Slashyiguess [#66]imagine a country that has no players in apac is still better than your whole region HAHAHAHA that's sad af
nah whats sad is all the gatekeeping SEA fans have to against SA xD
delusional_paperrex_fan [#67]bro they merged sea sa and oce because sa dont deserve their own masters slot thats why they merge them together
I know but since SEA doesn't have a separate Qualifier it means MY/SG doesnt deserve direct slots either thats exactly what Im saying
OzyMeister [#73]I know but since SEA doesn't have a separate Qualifier it means MY/SG doesnt deserve direct slots either thats exactly what Im saying
mysg is 7-1 againts sa teams 💀💀 + the only win was againts a unsigned team
delusional_paperrex_fan [#74]mysg is 7-1 againts sa teams 💀💀 + the only win was againts a unsigned team
still no direct slots to Masters
OzyMeister [#75]still no direct slots to Masters
no shit they have dont have a direct slot? wtf are u trying to prove
delusional_paperrex_fan [#76]no shit they have dont have a direct slot? wtf are u trying to prove
That My/Sg > South Asia would be an apt thing to say since they're both subregions
but the region is APAC now
OzyMeister [#2]2nd Strongest
APAC > NA
2 teams reaching quarterfinals > 1 international trophy and second place finish apparently. SMH
wizardbot [#15]But that doesnt matter, its like when someone says EMEA>NA and the other person interjects and says "no, only CIS,EU>NA. Turkish teams are not same level as them." Just dumb
wait are you the one thats stupid, tf. Thats like saying I cant compare brazil to NA cause Brazil is only aa single country. Like its actually highkey the most idiotic argument ive heard on VLR and thats saying something
OzyMeister [#41]coz SEA isn't a region anymore THATS WHY
its APAC in 2022 with all the circuit points shit combined
APAC has 8 subregions which are MY/SG TH ID VN PH SA OCE HK/TW
Oh ok so Canada cant be compared to USA because theyre in the saame region, yea ye understandable. Its almost like ppl are saying teams come from a single country/subregion... oh wait.
Yall are actually braindead, no one is fucking hating on india or OCE, were simply saying that compared to SEA they aint shit. Turkey is the same way compared to CIS. The teams come from a subregion/country, they dont come FROM THE REGION get that into your head. Asia is a massive continent and we cant talk about it as a whole cause there are definitely so many parts of asia that CANNOT produce near the talent that SEA can. I can say SEA>JP cause thats fucking true, all the JP teams are ass and lumping all the APAC teams into one is just a disrespect to all the SEA and Korean teams that have proven themselves internationally.
OzyMeister [#13]Like I said if you are comparing regions with regions it makes sense
also everyone knows SEA >> SA there's a reason SEA makes up 75% of APAC teams while SA is 10%
the percentage of teams doesnt matter when only the best teams can represent your region. If I put 99% every region other than CIS agaainst Gambit, there is not doubt in my mind thaat Gambit will still come out on top, theyre the best of CIS and theyre the best in the world PERIOD. Percentage is something that is being eliminated by the formats of tournaments due to only allowing the best of the best to compete.
OzyMeister [#22]and that is why they get 2 slots in APAC meanwhile SEA gets 15 I don't understand whats there to be mad about ? xD
dude you really are giving a bad name for your country man its embarrassing and im not even from there. The format for all the tournaments has always been the same, the regions best are representing their region so that they can prove that they deserve more slots, has SA done that? To my knowledge NO. Their best even lost to a mediocre SEA and KR team. Thats just proof that adding more slots wont do shit. SEA slots got increased cause the SEA teams in Champs proved thaat they deserved it by going at the top dogs and going toe to toe with them.
JustHunter [#80]Oh ok so Canada cant be compared to USA because theyre in the saame region, yea ye understandable. Its almost like ppl are saying teams come from a single country/subregion... oh wait.
Yall are actually braindead, no one is fucking hating on india or OCE, were simply saying that compared to SEA they aint shit. Turkey is the same way compared to CIS. The teams come from a subregion/country, they dont come FROM THE REGION get that into your head. Asia is a massive continent and we cant talk about it as a whole cause there are definitely so many parts of asia that CANNOT produce near the talent that SEA can. I can say SEA>JP cause thats fucking true, all the JP teams are ass and lumping all the APAC teams into one is just a disrespect to all the SEA and Korean teams that have proven themselves internationally.
mate shut the fuck up how is JP in APAC ? when they have separate qualifier
Turkey can be compared to CIS coz they're both subregion under EMEA
but under APAC there is no such subregion as SEA if there was, there should have been a combined SEA quali which there isnt
not reading other bullshit coz you got geographical terms and VCT Terms confused Im strictly speaking in context to VCT just like EMEA has 3 subregions CIS TR and EU
APAC has 8 suberegions MY/SG TH ID VN PH SA OCE HK/TW
JustHunter [#82]dude you really are giving a bad name for your country man its embarrassing and im not even from there. The format for all the tournaments has always been the same, the regions best are representing their region so that they can prove that they deserve more slots, has SA done that? To my knowledge NO. Their best even lost to a mediocre SEA and KR team. Thats just proof that adding more slots wont do shit. SEA slots got increased cause the SEA teams in Champs proved thaat they deserved it by going at the top dogs and going toe to toe with them.
I dont think you got the whole idea what I was trying to say I didnt ask for more slots for SA they havent even played VCT before all I said was it doesnt make sense to compare SEA with SA
coz SEA isn't a region anymore
its APAC in 2022 with all the circuit points shit combined
APAC has 8 subregions which are MY/SG TH ID VN PH SA OCE HK/TW
JustHunter [#81]the percentage of teams doesnt matter when only the best teams can represent your region. If I put 99% every region other than CIS agaainst Gambit, there is not doubt in my mind thaat Gambit will still come out on top, theyre the best of CIS and theyre the best in the world PERIOD. Percentage is something that is being eliminated by the formats of tournaments due to only allowing the best of the best to compete.
never denied that and that wasnt the discussion earlier
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