Cloud9 vs Sentinels

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Vortexy

Who would win as of rn? They're in different groups so we won't see them play each other for some time unfortunately.

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kristof

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C9

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delusional_paperrex_fan

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c9 2-1 sen

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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C9 probably unless tenz goes for 300+ ACS

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nikoya

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cloud9. Tbh I feel like Sentinels wouldn't even be second. They might lose to V1, Guard, and XSET before they lose to c9. Hell, with how V1 have been playing even C9 might lose to them if they aren't careful.

edit: I'm more excited for Sentinels vs Optic and Sentinels vs Rise (if Rise play well since they've been inconsistent recently).

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Vortexy

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fair enough

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Thomaslee

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4-0

Sen win

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hiyo

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c9 2-1 but SEN will qualify to Masters as 2nd seed
IMO:
C9
SEN
V1
Guard
XSET
OpTic
Rise
LG
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100T
NRG
EG
Knights

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Thomaslee

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Guard?

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hiyo

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Guard have a pretty free ticket to playoffs(EG, C9, XSET) and I think they can beat XSET and EG but lose to C9 in 2-0 fashion.

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Thomaslee

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U think they have a chance to go to lan tho?Maybe some upsets??

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hiyo

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i'll be sold on the guard wave if they beat c9 for sure, but V1, SEN, and C9 all look so good too so it'll be exciting top 4

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man_i_love_tenz

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tenz won't lose to homeless haircut leaf, sorry

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Delusional_Mitch_Fan

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hahhahahahahhaha make fun of peoples appearances fun

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man_i_love_tenz

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fun? its sad if anything

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Delusional_Mitch_Fan

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mitch

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TejS40

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People are criminally underrating sentinels.
SEN 2-1 C9
I believe both will make Masters

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nikoya

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People aren't underrating Sentinels. They just aren't overrating them.

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TejS40

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People are on here saying SEN will lose to V1 or Guard, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
SEN is still the best team on paper in NA, I guarantee people are underrating them

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KnoobDude

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They look so bad and lost when they play. They only have the individual part

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tennisfan

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Incoming SEN KnoobDude as coach

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prims

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they won against less experienced teams. Maybe they can beat guard but v1 is firing on all cylinders I don't know if SEN has the firepower to beat them

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iMyw_

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Even if you have the best players if you dont prac how you gonna beat a V1 on fire and even optic?

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nikoya

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on paper

On paper is cool and all, but results are what matter. In this VCT (the competition where teams are expected to go all out and the competition that actually matters) V1 manhandled Knights (13-4, 13-2). Sentinels lost a map to them. Sentinels also lost a map to NRG. NRG lost to Optic. Optic lost to Rise. Rise lost to V1, not once, but twice. Not only did they lose, they lost badly. 13-6, 13-6, 13-4, 13-5. The Guard is looking insane as well. A 13-0 against Asuna and Ethan, regardless of the circumstances, is not easily attainable. It's not Sentinels being underrated, it's you disregarding V1 and Guard. Maybe it's because of personal bias, maybe because of V1's past and the Guard being new, maybe you didn't watch V1 and Guard play, maybe it's all of the above, but either way, Sentinels is not more favored than C9 to win a matchup between the two.

Also, the transferability argument (anyone can lose to anyone) is mainly set in tier two NA valorant. Hierarchies are clearer as you go higher up.

So yeah, on paper doesn't really matter. Relying on individual talent can only get you so far.

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zNyatt

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Losing to Guard is a little nuts, but V1 is real scary 😬

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SpaceCow

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sentinels for sure