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T1 players and coach

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codv

Please stop saying it is not the players' fault that the coach cheated. They communicated with their coach knowing that it is against the rule so they also cheated. btw wardell got hard gapped by steel OMEGALUL. TY for coming to my TED Talk.

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true, however Akrew winning it all

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we know nothing. what if it was the coach's desire to send them messages even though they don't want to since they are good players and if you are saying that they should tell the organizers what their coach was doing, they would probably think that the players are secretly involved up until the Map 1 where the coach slipped. It would also tarnished the players' reputation since T1 is a big organization that they allowed for it to happen.

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codv
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Plonkle [#2]

true, however Akrew winning it all

rooting for u guys, love to see players grinding hard and getting what they deserved

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Shteam [#3]

we know nothing. what if it was the coach's desire to send them messages even though they don't want to since they are good players and if you are saying that they should tell the organizers what their coach was doing, they would probably think that the players are secretly involved up until the Map 1 where the coach slipped. It would also tarnished the players' reputation since T1 is a big organization that they allowed for it to happen.

if the players had any ethics they wouldve told the coach to stop but they didnt

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codv [#5]

if the players had any ethics they wouldve told the coach to stop but they didnt

also what if they're are trying to, but the coach isn't stopping?

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Shteam [#6]

also what if they're are trying to, but the coach isn't stopping?

it's also not 100% the player's fault, they are all active in twitter and insta, means that they are probably not involved.

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Shteam [#6]

also what if they're are trying to, but the coach isn't stopping?

lol wat how is that even a possibility? if thats the case u tell any higher ups in the org and the coach gets fired?

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codv [#8]

lol wat how is that even a possibility? if thats the case u tell any higher ups in the org and the coach gets fired?

that's why it is being investigated. I'm not saying they should be because they can still participate.

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Shteam [#9]

that's why it is being investigated. I'm not saying they should be because they can still participate.

and it doesn't matter the second quali is up next week and this,

https://twitter.com/Subroza/status/1487995211724828674

https://twitter.com/Subroza/status/1487676335250157569

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Shteam [#10]

and it doesn't matter the second quali is up next week and this,

https://twitter.com/Subroza/status/1487995211724828674

https://twitter.com/Subroza/status/1487676335250157569

wat ?XD im not even a tsm fan and everyone with eyes knows that TSM fkn sucked. LG looked better than them on all 3 maps

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Shteam [#7]

it's also not 100% the player's fault, they are all active in twitter and insta, means that they are probably not involved.

"unauthorized communication" and communication means it goes both ways btw so they are 100% involved

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codv [#11]

wat ?XD im not even a tsm fan and everyone with eyes knows that TSM fkn sucked. LG looked better than them on all 3 maps

not my point tho.

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Shteam [#13]

not my point tho.

then what was the point of that reply lol

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codv [#12]

"unauthorized communication" and communication means it goes both ways btw so they are 100% involved

yeah "unauthorized communication" it also applies to VCT teams that participated not only to T1, and if they communicated it would be also Riot's responsibility since they didn't prevent it from happening. just force the rules to them.

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codv [#14]

then what was the point of that reply lol

my point is that they are all good, all they need is to wait for investigation to be public and prepare for the next quali lol

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Shteam [#16]

my point is that they are all good, all they need is to wait for investigation to be public and prepare for the next quali lol

the investigation was literally out yesterday ?XD

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Shteam [#15]

yeah "unauthorized communication" it also applies to VCT teams that participated not only to T1, and if they communicated it would be also Riot's responsibility since they didn't prevent it from happening. just force the rules to them.

so ur saying when someone commits a crime its the government's fault because they didnt prevent the criminal from doing what they did?

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codv [#17]

the investigation was literally out yesterday ?XD

that's not whole story wtf are you saying. still don't have the logs of the conversation.

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codv [#18]

so ur saying when someone commits a crime its the government's fault because they didnt prevent the criminal from doing what they did?

government's fault? what's the point of (Riot Investigator/Organizer) if they can't prevent it?

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Shteam [#20]

government's fault? what's the point of (Riot Investigator/Organizer) if they can't prevent it?

and I'm not even blaming Riot, i'm just saying its poorly handled by them and your making it worse because "the government didn't prevent the crime to happen".

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Shteam [#20]

government's fault? what's the point of (Riot Investigator/Organizer) if they can't prevent it?

idk maybe players are expected to have basic ethics to compete fairly, also NSG is the TO btw

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Shteam [#19]

that's not whole story wtf are you saying. still don't have the logs of the conversation.

communication means words going both way btw u dont seem to understand that

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codv [#22]

idk maybe players are expected to have basic ethics to compete fairly, also NSG is the TO btw

so what happened to coach? you're blaming the players that they cheated. you didn't point out anything because you know nothing. like I said nobody knows what's real because the whole investigation is not even public yet, so ye.

btw T1 seven is 16, first tourney, T1 pwny first Tier 1 Tourney, T1 thwifo came back from being benched for almost a year, T1 steel want redemption from 100T, T1 curry 1 and half yrs on T1 and won nothing, first Tier 1 tourney.

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Shteam [#24]

so what happened to coach? you're blaming the players that they cheated. you didn't point out anything because you know nothing. like I said nobody knows what's real because the whole investigation is not even public yet, so ye.

btw T1 seven is 16, first tourney, T1 pwny first Tier 1 Tourney, T1 thwifo came back from being benched for almost a year, T1 steel want redemption from 100T, T1 curry 1 and half yrs on T1 and won nothing, first Tier 1 tourney.

yeah anyway bye this shit is nonsense, I don't want drama.

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codv [#5]

if the players had any ethics they wouldve told the coach to stop but they didnt

How exactly do you know the players didnt tell him to stop? How exactly do you know it was more than "help sewers" that was said? I mean, you seem to know it all so enlighten us please.

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codv [#23]

communication means words going both way btw u dont seem to understand that

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Communication can absolutely be one way
Also what would the players even need to tell the coach?

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Shteam [#24]

so what happened to coach? you're blaming the players that they cheated. you didn't point out anything because you know nothing. like I said nobody knows what's real because the whole investigation is not even public yet, so ye.

btw T1 seven is 16, first tourney, T1 pwny first Tier 1 Tourney, T1 thwifo came back from being benched for almost a year, T1 steel want redemption from 100T, T1 curry 1 and half yrs on T1 and won nothing, first Tier 1 tourney.

ok and? they didnt stop the coach from communicating with them so they are also involved? it doesnt matter how young they are or how new the team is, it doesnt excuse the lack of integrity to compete fairly.

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Dyabolic [#26]

How exactly do you know the players didnt tell him to stop? How exactly do you know it was more than "help sewers" that was said? I mean, you seem to know it all so enlighten us please.

idk ask TSM.

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Dyabolic [#26]

How exactly do you know the players didnt tell him to stop? How exactly do you know it was more than "help sewers" that was said? I mean, you seem to know it all so enlighten us please.

the word communcate/communication means interaction from both parties which implies there are more than 1 message sent. Also if the players told the coach to stop and he still didnt stop they can just say 1 word and he loses his job ?XD

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Look, did I even say or said that they didn't participated? and also lack of integrity to play fairly? that's why I said it's up to the riot's decision if they can still qualify or play in VCT and if they really cheated then they should be punished. you saying that to push all to me doesn't make sense since I also said I don't even know what happened and I'm just explaining what could have happened because both parties are not showing any proofs or chat logs/comms.

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Shteam [#31]

Look, did I even say or said that they didn't participated? and also lack of integrity to play fairly? that's why I said it's up to the riot's decision if they can still qualify or play in VCT and if they really cheated then they should be punished. you saying that to push all to me doesn't make sense since I also said I don't even know what happened and I'm just explaining what could have happened because both parties are not showing any proofs or chat logs/comms.

but yeah I'm out, not going back to this "drama" you started even tho i'm just explaining.

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Shteam [#29]

idk ask TSM.

It seems like I quoted the wrong person. I meant to quote the clown trolling in this thread.

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Plonkle [#2]

true, however Akrew winning it all

You can trust me they all do this! The others just don't get caught.

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