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Overall state of NA

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#1
Tomstar124

Got to be honest haven’t been impressed by the overall play in this tourney from what I’ve seen fundamentals just aren’t good

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Sprouts
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Watch The Guard if you want to see good fundamentals

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Ah yes a bronze telling us about his understanding of fundamentals

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i mean its not like emea has been 5x more impressive... some of these teams havent played in ages or have new rosters + others are plain t2 idk what "fundamentals" u expect

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Revlo
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EU qual teams did not look better lmao, except for probably guild.

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Tomstar124
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Sprouts [#2]

Watch The Guard if you want to see good fundamentals

To be fair I did watch a bit of there game yesterday and they were pretty good and haven’t seen any of xset (don’t know why there my favourite NA team) but I’ve seen a lot of Faze/Lg/TSM/GenG and haven’t been impressed at all

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i mean the top teams (other than tom) haven’t even played yet so yeah.... and by top teams i mean envy

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plas [#4]

i mean its not like emea has been 5x more impressive... some of these teams havent played in ages or have new rosters + others are plain t2 idk what "fundamentals" u expect

Positioning, dry peeking, swinging 1 by 1 happens like 20 times a game

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Sprouts [#2]

Watch The Guard if you want to see good fundamentals

Ngl the guard is my new favorite team. Idk why

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Tomstar124
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Revlo [#5]

EU qual teams did not look better lmao, except for probably guild.

First Eu qual was much higher level then this

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Tomstar124 [#6]

To be fair I did watch a bit of there game yesterday and they were pretty good and haven’t seen any of xset (don’t know why there my favourite NA team) but I’ve seen a lot of Faze/Lg/TSM/GenG and haven’t been impressed at all

TBF I don't really consider GenG, TSM, FaZe and LG as close to top NA teams in this tourney, watch the four teams still in the upper bracket for a better view

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Tomstar124 [#8]

Positioning, dry peeking, swinging 1 by 1 happens like 20 times a game

and this doesnt happen in other regions either?? some eu playoff matches were literally clownfests with the way teams like G2 were playing at some point, i was only impressed by Guild

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swaglord69 [#7]

i mean the top teams (other than tom) haven’t even played yet so yeah.... and by top teams i mean envy

Damn... Can you fit c9 in there. They're up there y'know.

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downbad [#3]

Ah yes a bronze telling us about his understanding of fundamentals

you dont have to be radiant to know about fundamentals, the analists and coachs doesnt need to be radiants to know about the game. Use ur brain pls

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Pocket [#13]

Damn... Can you fit c9 in there. They're up there y'know.

ya i guess they can slide

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Tomstar124 [#10]

First Eu qual was much higher level then this

copium

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FsJaredFan
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this is why no one likes British people

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Tomstar124
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plas [#12]

and this doesnt happen in other regions either?? some eu playoff matches were literally clownfests with the way teams like G2 were playing at some point, i was only impressed by Guild

Of course it happens sometimes even at champions but I’m seeing it almost every round. BiG and maybe even vitialty/LDN could beat every team I’ve watched in NA

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inkie [#14]

you dont have to be radiant to know about fundamentals, the analists and coachs doesnt need to be radiants to know about the game. Use ur brain pls

fair point, but.... analists made me laugh my ass of

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Tomstar124 [#18]

Of course it happens sometimes even at champions but I’m seeing it almost every round. BiG and maybe even vitialty/LDN could beat every team I’ve watched in NA

G2 qualed for playoffs and u saw the same thing i saw. do the math urself bro

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Revlo [#5]

EU qual teams did not look better lmao, except for probably guild.

try opening your eyes then next time m8

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literally all teams are dogshit except v1 and xset, somehow v1 look fucking insane with this zander guy

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inkie [#14]

you dont have to be radiant to know about fundamentals, the analists and coachs doesnt need to be radiants to know about the game. Use ur brain pls

Bro a bronze can't even swing properly... u think he'll be able to know complex stuff like trading, utility usage, spacing and defense set ups?

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Tomstar124 [#10]

First Eu qual was much higher level then this

no

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plas [#20]

G2 qualed for playoffs and u saw the same thing i saw. do the math urself bro

Because they were much better in the 2nd then 1st qualifier?????

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FsJaredFan [#17]

this is why no one likes British people

British "people"

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Tomstar124
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idkbro [#22]

literally all teams are dogshit except v1 and xset, somehow v1 look fucking insane with this zander guy

Pretty much

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Tomstar124 [#6]

To be fair I did watch a bit of there game yesterday and they were pretty good and haven’t seen any of xset (don’t know why there my favourite NA team) but I’ve seen a lot of Faze/Lg/TSM/GenG and haven’t been impressed at all

That's the issue. You're watching the top teams from 2021, not 2022. If you're looking for fundamentals, watch Version1, The Guard, XSET, and Rise, with T1, NRG, and Knights also being on point at times.

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downbad [#23]

Bro a bronze can't even swing properly... u think he'll be able to know complex stuff like trading, utility usage, spacing and defense set ups?

First of all you don't even know if he is bronze lol that's free hate you are spittin

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Tomstar124 [#27]

Pretty much

Could say the same thing for EU outside of guild, literally everyone else looked like they wouldn't even be able to take a map off the top 4-5 in EMEA.

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