Less is right

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number1_MIBR_hater
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During a stream, Less talked about how people look up to FURIA, MIBR, LOUD because they are BR orgs, but they're just NA teams with one or two BR imports.

LEV and KRU are the most brazilian teams, it's kinda sad seeing this truth cause I never wanted to cheer for KRU or LEV but they had more respect for the BR scene than the likes of SHITBR ("star team" which had 2 of the top duelists in the world and still got diffed by duelist gap during international, MADE IN BRAZIL BUT GOES INTERNATIONAL LMAO), LURIA (didn't care about franchising until last minute, and when the scene goes back to more local leagues, they will jump to NA), LOUD (clown management, poor mentality, they live off the glories of a great roster that choose the ORG just because of financial reasons).

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Good_ping_Bad_aim
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just because of financial reasons
as if the organisation can live without money

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ILikeEsports
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How is loud considered a NA team?
i get what u meant by mibr and furia

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Punish3rlp
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It'll be funny if Kru goes to being shit in the Playoffs lol

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Good_ping_Bad_aim [#2]

just because of financial reasons
as if the organisation can live without money

that's not it, and if you don't understand the brazilian e-sports scene in general you wouldn't understand why they choose LOUD over more successful orgs

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healzera [#4]

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let's crowdfund this

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number1_MIBR_hater
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Punish3rlp [#5]

It'll be funny if Kru goes to being shit in the Playoffs lol

well, it would just line up with the rest of the BR orgs performance as well

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number1_MIBR_hater [#6]

that's not it, and if you don't understand the brazilian e-sports scene in general you wouldn't understand why they choose LOUD over more successful orgs

what i understand is that more money = better chance to move in a quality of life place, better facilities, more travel opportunities.

Niko in G2, ropz in mouz were both pretty small but when they went to falcons and faze respectively:
niko buys a yacht and made like 20+ international trips in a single year.
ropz gets a porsche, gets another porsche, crashes his first, and then gets a replacement for his first porsche.

would u go to a legendary org like Loud who pay u 100k/monthly and failed to go to internationals or go to Lev who failed to make champs last year either way?

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number1_MIBR_hater
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Good_ping_Bad_aim [#9]

what i understand is that more money = better chance to move in a quality of life place, better facilities, more travel opportunities.

Niko in G2, ropz in mouz were both pretty small but when they went to falcons and faze respectively:
niko buys a yacht and made like 20+ international trips in a single year.
ropz gets a porsche, gets another porsche, crashes his first, and then gets a replacement for his first porsche.

would u go to a legendary org like Loud who pay u 100k/monthly and failed to go to internationals or go to Lev who failed to make champs last year either way?

you're not getting it.

FURIA and MIBR were more legendary than LOUD ever was, LOUD was known as a content creator org back in the days. They had a lot of money, sure, but they were more of PR org which focused on their employees IMAGE and CONTENT CREATION. Since your account is from 2025 you weren't even here to see the slander posts. LOUD Valorant is carried by the glory of their first roster, that's a fact. You can't even see they weren't "legendary" as for there were complaints about their structure in franchising, they don't have the "streets smart" thing like other successful orgs because they never had too much international experience. Sacy and Saadhak chose them exactly because they were huge in Brazil (ensuring they had the most visibility) and they gave up more money from prizes since they were on a tier below FURIA and MIBR) TL;DR LOUD was always a content creator org and it was HUGE IN BRAZIL, being like a child trying to sit on the adult table when speaking about international experience in general (as an organization!) since they were considered a tier below, the org gave up on prize money, unlike MIBR and FURIA who took a good chunk of it

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truth nuke i said it yesterday that people love to shit on loud management (as they should) but ignore completely furia and mibr management who were way worse until this year

furia is quite literally sabotaging brazilian valorant since 23 and people are applauding it
MIBR was literally using val money to fund CS and people just ignore that

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Kinda sad that the LATAM orgs are the most BR (other than LOUD which have other issues) but I also like the fact KRU and LEV still have some LATAM players too

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sw4gman
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blame Liot games for hosting in LA

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number1_MIBR_hater
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sw4gman [#13]

blame Liot games for hosting in LA

the orgs have mickey mouse management tho

they knew franchising would end in '26

any person who actually reads and learns how the community feels about the e-sport knew they would change drastically and local leagues getting back was most likely to happen

then why act like they did?

it's just like @foythvlr said, people look to LOUD because of their past success (which was tied more to the roster than the org themselves) and criticize it, but we brazilians know FURIA and MIBR should've been on top tiers since franchise started because they were supposed to be old dogs in the game, while LOUD was starting an international career as an organization

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Esports has always been a game where fans tend to follow players more than they follow teams like real sports

People should fully adopt this philosophy, it’s not like NA fans won’t be watching London if KRU LEV and FUR make it because FUR still has 4 NA players

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number1_MIBR_hater
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backslider [#15]

Esports has always been a game where fans tend to follow players more than they follow teams like real sports

People should fully adopt this philosophy, it’s not like NA fans won’t be watching London if KRU LEV and FUR make it because FUR still has 4 NA players

Agreed. A lot of brazilian fans follow the orgs instead of players and surprise surprise those are SHITBR/FURIA/LOUD fans ofc

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