what if ns win london or maybe champs ?
IF NS win again
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they’d be in contention with fnc for best team of all time if they win london and if they win champs there’d be no debate
sentis aren't buffed at all right? But also teams always get better too. So it's gonna be very hard.
Krayon9239 [#4]Nah. Its another t1 situation. They gonna dip
Except T1 lost two matches in Bangkok and nearly lost the Grand Final, while NS were absolutely dominant in the tournament other than maybe the G2 game. You could replay the tournament 10 times and NS would win it probably 7-8 times, which is not the same for T1 Bangkok.
archetype [#3]they’d be in contention with fnc for best team of all time if they win london and if they win champs there’d be no debate
downvoted for truth
tua [#9]downvoted for truth
no team other than fnc won two trophies b2b within the year, plus this time it’d be two masters instead of lockin + masters, and no team has won a masters and a champs together, let alone within the same year
also fnc didnt even win the regional trophy when they dominated
people just downvoting because they don’t have brains or can’t read
ninjaturtle [#8]Except T1 lost two matches in Bangkok and nearly lost the Grand Final, while NS were absolutely dominant in the tournament other than maybe the G2 game. You could replay the tournament 10 times and NS would win it probably 7-8 times, which is not the same for T1 Bangkok.
They gonna chill. NObody cares about 2nd masters after winning one.
Getting first seed again is hella difficult in apac.
ninjaturtle [#8]Except T1 lost two matches in Bangkok and nearly lost the Grand Final, while NS were absolutely dominant in the tournament other than maybe the G2 game. You could replay the tournament 10 times and NS would win it probably 7-8 times, which is not the same for T1 Bangkok.
yeah but the meta was literally perfect for them. don't think they will be as dominant when the meta changes eventually
archetype [#3]they’d be in contention with fnc for best team of all time if they win london and if they win champs there’d be no debate
why are people down voting this, there have been no dynasties other than fnatic, if NS wins they could be in best teams debates fr.
archetype [#11]no team other than fnc won two trophies b2b within the year, plus this time it’d be two masters instead of lockin + masters, and no team has won a masters and a champs together, let alone within the same year
also fnc didnt even win the regional trophy when they dominated
people just downvoting because they don’t have brains or can’t read
First part isn't really true tho. Like winning 2 masters isn't gonna bring them in contention for the best team oat with fnc. Fnc would still be the best team oat. Ns was irrelevant till this year. Consistency and longevity matters too.
scorpliet [#14]why are people down voting this, there have been no dynasties other than fnatic, if NS wins they could be in best teams debates fr.
Fnc was the closest team, didn't make the dynasty
scorpliet [#14]why are people down voting this, there have been no dynasties other than fnatic, if NS wins they could be in best teams debates fr.
because vlr has mentally ill people.
Ryandr [#15]First part isn't really true tho. Like winning 2 masters isn't gonna bring them in contention for the best team oat with fnc. Fnc would still be the best team oat. Ns was irrelevant till this year. Consistency and longevity matters too.
FNC are the best org of all time. FNC 23 is the best team of all time.
The consistency part is easily answered with two consecutive masters - no team in history has had the consistency to win two masters back to back. Longevity doesn’t necessarily matter after that because you automatically have better longevity than every other team that didn’t just win two tournaments in a row.
archetype [#18]FNC are the best org of all time. FNC 23 is the best team of all time.
The consistency part is easily answered with two consecutive masters - no team in history has had the consistency to win two masters back to back. Longevity doesn’t necessarily matter after that because you automatically have better longevity than every other team that didn’t just win two tournaments in a row.
Nvm yeah they can be in contention for the best team in that sense but not an org as Leo had to leave in 2024.
Ryandr [#19]Nvm yeah they can be in contention for the best team in that sense but not an org as Leo had to leave in 2024.
yeah, i said team. not org. that’s why i said the people who downvoted me can’t read.
Ryandr [#15]First part isn't really true tho. Like winning 2 masters isn't gonna bring them in contention for the best team oat with fnc. Fnc would still be the best team oat. Ns was irrelevant till this year. Consistency and longevity matters too.
FNC only won 2 masters, Sentinels only won 2 masters, NO team has won more than 2 masters.
NS won London masters will be debated on the best team oat with fnc but ofc fnc will clear because emeass fans are at brink of abyss they are one step to become jihadists because they're mocked for too long
SudokuDude [#17]because vlr has mentally ill people.
“because the people are retarded”
archetype [#22]“because the people are retarded”
they're both different terms for a reason
itoktobenotok [#10]go back to double ini meta and NS dead
double ini meta with no neon nerf would arguably be still insane for ns tho u could keep xross fade + francis skye / kayo (both agents which hes good at) and still set up dambi same way
scorpliet [#14]why are people down voting this, there have been no dynasties other than fnatic, if NS wins they could be in best teams debates fr.
People in vlr want a western dynasty team (G2/NRG), to gloat ego so they can act tuff in the forum etc. Nongshim is asian team that is seen as too humble and doesn't fit their narrative.
archetype [#3]they’d be in contention with fnc for best team of all time if they win london and if they win champs there’d be no debate
varrel fans deserve no opinion
archetype [#3]they’d be in contention with fnc for best team of all time if they win london and if they win champs there’d be no debate
Fnatic has been at the top since 2020. Yes this particular roster would be in contention to start a dynasty but for now they would be confined to winning in just one meta
attracted [#27]varrel fans deserve no opinion
your entire life on this site is hating on fans of teams whereas you yourself do not rep any team in particular, shit is just sad i feel sorry for you
AlittleMio [#28]Fnatic has been at the top since 2020. Yes this particular roster would be in contention to start a dynasty but for now they would be confined to winning in just one meta
yeah but fnatic has not been the same team since 2020, sooooooo
danii1 [#2]Then neon is getting nerfed (or cypher/vyse buff)
Buff and sentinels in the same sentence someone at riot just threw up
Warlordwibz [#26]People in vlr want a western dynasty team (G2/NRG), to gloat ego so they can act tuff in the forum etc. Nongshim is asian team that is seen as too humble and doesn't fit their narrative.
You need to stop with this Asians aren't given equal opportunity type type shit bruh. Gives such inferiority complex vibes.
archetype [#30]yeah but fnatic has not been the same team since 2020, sooooooo
Fnatic has been the same core since 23 and been good, ns have been good for 1 event (2 if london)
archetype [#11]no team other than fnc won two trophies b2b within the year, plus this time it’d be two masters instead of lockin + masters, and no team has won a masters and a champs together, let alone within the same year
also fnc didnt even win the regional trophy when they dominated
people just downvoting because they don’t have brains or can’t read
plus, i believe nongshim will have consistency
AlittleMio [#33]Fnatic has been the same core since 23 and been good, ns have been good for 1 event (2 if london)
fnatic 23 won two trophies in a row, the nongshim core would also have won two trophies in a row, but this time it would be two masters and not lockin, plus they won a regional which 23 fnc did not
also fnc 23 did not really do anything in 2024, soooo
and we're not talking about "core"s here
Ryandr [#32]You need to stop with this Asians aren't given equal opportunity type type shit bruh. Gives such inferiority complex vibes.
This ain't about equal opportunity, pacific farms masters. They don't want Leagueification to start in valo. Pre partnership days its all about NA vs EU, NAVI flairs on this site back then was pure putrid. Annoying SEN fans becoming less and less prevalent and now its just G2 and NRG left. At least SEA PRX netizens give them a taste of the own medicine.
Krayon9239 [#12]They gonna chill. NObody cares about 2nd masters after winning one.
Getting first seed again is hella difficult in apac.
they don’t need first seed they just have to make the event
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