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Leo and Tenz

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MysticMian

Let's just assume Tenz returned to Sentinels, and Leo returned to Fnatic. How much of an impact are both of these players making in their respective teams? There's a lot of factors like team chemistry, playstyle, etc. that get changed with certain players. What do you all think?

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Both will perform well below their level

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MysticMian
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A lot of people say that, but why would they underperform? Is it the meta, playstyle, teams, or being rusty because too much time off?

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I haven't heard much from Leo but from the looks of it he's not in good shape rn. idk if he's still sick but physically he looks very weak

tenz is just washed

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MysticMian
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If Leo didn't get sick, he'd have been regarded as one of the goats of the game imo. Tenz isn't that washed, I think he might have been able to make a comeback.

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I have a feeling Leo would be good but wouldn't be as great as he was in the past because the meta's changed and there is significantly more talent in VCT than there was in the past. As for tenz he'd probably be shit for a while and then he would go back to what he was like in 2024.

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RT.
Leo will still be one of the best initiators in the game if he ever came back, he was one of the best in the era of prime Aspas, Less, Demon1, etc.

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Not all players can just come back and perform like they did before, not even Leo. Like there is a big difference between him and the players you mentioned who have played every meta and continued to adapt to the game vs a guy who hasn't played in 2 years.

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ItsTriiq
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TenZ saw the yoru files and realized he's implicated in it so he will not return.
source: riot.gov

#11
MysticMian
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The yoru files have made me more worried about Eggster than anyone else, what's bro going to do now that yoru is basically in the bin?

#13
GodAwfulGod
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Play yoru

#7
t0t0_wolff
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Leo would perform better as he'd still have Boaster, Alfajer around him

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MysticMian
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That's what I was thinking, he still would have Boaster and he also would have some shooters in Kajaak and veqaj

#14
MumbaiChad
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Better than NRG for sure

#15
JonahPork
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Leo definitely wouldn’t be at his peak but he’d still be a lot better than Crashies

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MysticMian
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RT

#16
Warlordwibz
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Would improve their respective org performance domestically but will still lose to pacific at masters event.

#18
MysticMian
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Even though he's been out of the game for a WHILE now, Leo still has a lot of experience at internationals. And they're not losing to Pacific.

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Warlordwibz
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For champs maybe. But I like the keep the pacific masters streak to continue.

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