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lets not lie to each other

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#1
estonianhagi

g2 are still horrible. they look much better once slotting babybay into chamber and giving jawgemo his original role back. however going from double initator to single duelist single initator single sentinel is going to make vayln instalock astra(second pseudo initator). G2 are probably gonna drop either jawg or leaf and pickup a initator.

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G2CapsFan
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They are gonna win this masters

#3
delighted
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might as well say team goatcret are winning champs

#4
estonianhagi
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theres a more chance i lips meduca in the back of my mini van than g2 even getting to the finals

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BoredBystander
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The amount of slander G2 be catching even after getting into top 4 is crazy to me.

#7
estonianhagi
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not slander just criticism why do people think fair criticism is straight slander. it would be slander if i attacked them personally or said anything that doesnt make sense.

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BoredBystander
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Brother they make top 4 how are they still terrible when they got to top 4? The only team they ever lost to is the other 2 of the top 4. If you want to make comparison to the other top 4 at least preface it.

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estonianhagi
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brother top 4 is the same as top 6 top 10 top 12. you didnt win nish. i dont get this top 4 lets go celebrate.

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BoredBystander
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No, to even qualify they have to be better than plenty of teams from their region, and they went to beat two top seed who are better than all of their region only losing to and experience top Pacific team and upcoming(unbeatable )1st seed Pacific team. I understand G2 greatness is expected but it doesn't warrant slander disguise as a critic

#9
KuschlKing
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Yeah, Americas watchers really be hating on their own Teams somehow. Toxic SEN and MIBR fans can't fathom cheering for a Region rather than hatewatching their own teams

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SENfns
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they're gonna drop their duelist or their best player to pick up an initiator?

#8
estonianhagi
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well said duelist cant play the hard entry can he.

#11
SENfns
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jawgemo can't play hard entry?
he's one of the best razes itw

#13
estonianhagi
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entry ≠ hard entry

hard entry is when ur sent into to go do something ex. miniboo

entry is when u have some util to back you.

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SENfns
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there will always be util in the entry to back you
lets start watching some vct games shall we 👍

#21
estonianhagi
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lol anyway.

on corrode babybay almost goes in every time with almost 0 util though he does have the dash back which ig is their safety net. on split though.

great setups for jawgemo here:
https://youtu.be/EpC_Wn5viOQ?t=5104

this is kinda unlucky from babybay but the spacing between first and second duelist is shocking:
https://youtu.be/EpC_Wn5viOQ?t=5460

just go watch the corrode and split game lol its very funny you say watch some vct games

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SENfns
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well if you watched the games you would know g2 also send in babybay into abyss B site to fake and keep enemy players there so the rest of the team can get a free A site
do you think smokes and reveal util doesn't count as setups?
also if you tried to send timestamped vods its just taking me to the start of the whole stream so i can't see your nitpicked examples that match your agenda

#27
estonianhagi
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well if you watched the games you would know g2 also send in babybay into abyss B site to fake and keep enemy players there so the rest of the team can get a free A site

i have no idea what that has to do with anything but sure

do you think smokes and reveal util doesn't count as setups?

smokes? how does a smoke give an advantage to your duelist?
the best way i can explain it to you is comparing aspas's entry which is about maybe 2 or 3 pieces or util to set him up compared to a player like miniboo who just needs a prowler and hes already at the back of ur neck.

#28
SENfns
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what? smokes cut off sightlines so your duelist has an easier entry what are we even talking about
matter of fact tell me the timestamps of the 2 vods you sent and i'll tell you they're setup

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tua
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Drop babybay
Pick up a player who can play support + duelist

#17
estonianhagi
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babybay is better than jawgemo at his own role so..... kind of raises questions. do we drop jawgemo or pickup a second initator and have babybay senti/viper flex

#18
SENfns
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thats quite a hard ask because support and duelist are like opposing playstyles
only selfless duelists could do it maybe

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fr0ster0p
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just want to see NRG vs G2 now can NRG win aginst them 1 time or not

#20
WjFROST0
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Drop Jawg or Leaf

Yeah alright buddy youve lost the plot, Jawg has been playing out amazing this tournament, he hasnt been farming everygame but hes showed up everytime when its mattered. Big game player
Leaf is the best mechanical player on G2, he literally is their best firepower dropping him is the last thing G2 should think of lmao

the only possible change is -Babybay +Boni or any cracked T2 talent

#23
estonianhagi
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jawg playing well this tournament? are we watching the same game? also babybay is not getting dropped i would say hes their better senti

#25
WjFROST0
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Bait so bad almost made me call up the big Yahu on you

#22
Runezpc
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I think part of the argument against dropping jawg for an initiator is that double init kinda stinks rn (unless your nrg but they are clearly the exception) another issue is that who would become the solo duelist on that team because while babybay has shown he can play waylay his agent pool is really small. Babybay’s agent pool is also kind of just a worse overlap of leaf and jawg with the waylay, little bit of yoru and chamber. Leaf is an incredible chamber. All this said I think G2 are fine even if the style they must play isn’t ideal this meta isn’t ideal for them (the slow team) but they will keep improving with JoshRT at coach and Valyn igl

#24
estonianhagi
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duelist nerf is bringing back initator meta. wait until masters is over for the updates.

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Runezpc
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If single duelist double initiator does return jawgemo plays all the duelists significantly better than babybay, I think your right on jawg not always being the sacrificial lamb send it in player like miniboo but g2s style just doesn’t call for that much, I hope they keep the team together but jawg is a better pure duelist than babybay. If we remember also he hasn’t played this role in well over a year since he played permanent solo yoru all last year

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Tax_evader
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no way either of them getting dropped. jawgemo is their selfless duelist willing to throw his body for the team. leaf is a very consistent aimer on every role he plays and very good to the role too. if someone's gonna get dropped it's babybay for someone who can flex between duelist and another role

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