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turkish players scamming?

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#1
AcidRain

https://twitter.com/YinsuCollins/status/1454911470123225092?t=-yFccdMA0JKp23EcDDAYHQ&s=19

what the absolute fuck is this take?
"its ok to steal if youre poor".
these people dont deserve respect or anything from the community, they deserve years worth of bans or even a perma ban.

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PrTsty
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"its ok to steal if youre poor", its right, only if youre at the absolute minimum tho

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ShadowisBAD
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Am Sorry bro but thats not right
stealing isnt good at all
even if u have 0$ in ur bank , its fine
try get a easy job where u dont need money to register for and then earn money andshit
but i wouldnt personally steal

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PrTsty
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i meant like when you are almost dying not what happened in this case lol, for exanple you are starving, dehydrating...

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ShadowisBAD
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starving, dehydrating..

then its somewhat fine , but begging is also an option
but theres a 0.001% chance someone with a real heart comes and buys u smth , those ppl are rare

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shyftnot
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I know that begging might sound like a better option than stealing but you can only say that because your hand is not forced into it. Most of us think our moral is high enough that we will always do the right thing. But we will never know that until the time comes. We don't know their struggle to put food on their table. So they might have a reason for this we aren't understanding. Not defending them, they still should be punished.

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ranker11
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well yeah jail has food

#21
Thunder1
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free food and shelter

#28
PrTsty
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bruh or the f'ing country just tries actually helping people that are starving

#48
MrGorilla
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government does good thing challenge (impossible)

#25
SnxZ
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If you are starving and dehydrating as a streamer or professional player just sell your goddamn setup to get some bread. No point in doing illegal shit

#27
PrTsty
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thats not my point, I was just talking about the statement, ofc someone who can access the internet has other ways to stop starving

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Sem1-
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if you are money laundering you aren't poor

#5
newbie
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you just can't point a split part of a whole statement and make judgements.

what she means is that many of these players didn't know what they were involved in and took action when they realize.
these people have done something terrible but their intention was not to scam innocent people, they were only stupid and greedy for money.

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AcidRain
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they deserve punishment for doing so

#20
ItsMeDio
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yeah, and she said that too

Stealing and preying on others is not okay, that's unforgivable [3/?]>
'm not saying it's okay for those streamers/players who got involved either but we don't fully know how this was even presented to them>

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wohe
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so the only thing that is being misunderstood now is the source of the money
many streamers claimed that when they accepted the bits the provider told them that it was through american ad watching sites and they had absolutely no idea that the source was actually stolen credit cards.
and some of them continued and some of them stopped after they learned the truth.
Maybe that's what yinsu is talking about

#41
hellaeleganceyeah
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what kind of american ad watching sites have to wash money through twitch bits lmao. fuck them they knew exactly what they were getting into. also which legitimate business gives 30% of the cut to the wash. shouldve thought this shit through lol.

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"It's ok to steal if you're poor".
First of all she never said that. Most of us don't even know the struggle to earn bread but we are hating on the people that got into this shit. And tbf they deserve the hate that they are getting but we also don't know what someone has to go through to put food on their table.

She is not respecting them, just empathizing with them because they probably had no other choice. And with the context of the situation a lot of Turkish fans and streamers are probably subjected to hate without reason. So, do they deserve to be punished for their deed? YES. But do we know why they might've done this? NO. Is there a chance they had to do that to survive? ABSOLUTELY.

#38
hellaeleganceyeah
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"no other choice" lmao. imagine what choices the actual victims had, if their bank doesnt flag it as soon as the scammers bought the bits that money the victims owe to the bank no matter what. if ur gonna empathize with the launderers atleast empathize with the actual victims too.

#9
Ibis
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Am i the only one who doesn’t like Yinsu that much even apart from that statement?

#14
ShadowisBAD
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she once blatantly denied to smth she did
see im known as a clown in this site , and i agree

But she said in a VALORANTING episode ( i think its the team liquid one and then she said i think EMEA's 4th seed i think liquid are better than sentinels )

Source : https://youtu.be/R21DXWvyD7I?t=7335

https://www.vlr.gg/47223/liquid/#81

and here she denies it https://www.vlr.gg/47223/liquid/#81

but its fine ppl make mistakes

made me look like more than a clown in the process tho

#17
ItsMeDio
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so, ur conclusion?

#18
ShadowisBAD
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Conclusion : im a clown , but i was right in this situation

#22
ItsMeDio
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lol

#33
MilanTheMyth
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true

#10
ItsMeDio
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i think what she just said that IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, that u stealing if u poor... not IT'S OK TO STEAL IF U'RE POOR

#12
Not_alt_account
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Yes im agree with her.

and sometimes i make petty thefts when i need it

#29
AcidRain
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oh yes im poor im now going to commit war atrocities and its ok becauze im poor the law shouldnt apply to me !

#31
Not_alt_account
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Yes.

#36
hellaeleganceyeah
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what about the people whose money was stolen. u wouldnt like to be at the receiving end would u.

#42
Not_alt_account
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i would stole another ones money

#43
hellaeleganceyeah
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would u also be happy to have ur money stolen. ik u would steal others money u have made that pretty clear.

#44
Not_alt_account
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Did you not understand me? I would steal anyone's money if my money have stolen.

#45
hellaeleganceyeah
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u have atrocious english lets stop here

#46
CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN
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eh, nah they were stealing out of other peoples pockets though. There's a difference between stealing some candy or a toy from mega corporations like walmart or something and what they have done

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ranker11
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lets justify crimes if you're poor

#24
ItsMeDio
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are u even read the whole tweet

i am however angry with those who actually did the stealing, those who persuaded naive streamers and players into participating and those who continued to blackmail them afterward. Stealing and preying on others is not okay, that's unforgivable [3/?]>

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AcidRain
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thats literally her putting all the blame on the scammers when some ofnthe blame should go to the streamers too

#39
ItsMeDio
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"It's ok to steal if you're poor".
First of all she never said that. Most of us don't even know the struggle to earn bread but we are hating on the people that got into this shit. And tbf they deserve the hate that they are getting but we also don't know what someone has to go through to put food on their table.

She is not respecting them, just empathizing with them because they probably had no other choice.

#32
MilanTheMyth
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then why is she saying its okay to steal if ur poor

#35
hellaeleganceyeah
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"naive". a kid can smell that is laundering from a mile away. they deserve what is coming for them.

#37
ItsMeDio
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yeah , they deserved that.

#23
gutszeraa
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lmfao thats not at all what she said, stop being bad faith

#26
MilanTheMyth
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Yes I will also rob people if in financial issues KKonaW actually 1Head

#34
hellaeleganceyeah
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they are basically laundering the money stolen from stolen credit cards and shit. what about the people whose identities got stolen and their cards maxed out. "trying to make money because they're in difficult financial situations" fuck them. if ur solution of getting out of ur difficulty is putting thousand others in more difficulty then u deserve the ban or whatever is coming for u.

#40
ItsMeDio
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"It's ok to steal if you're poor".
First of all she never said that. Most of us don't even know the struggle to earn bread but we are hating on the people that got into this shit. And tbf they deserve the hate that they are getting but we also don't know what someone has to go through to put food on their table.

She is not respecting them, just empathizing with them because they probably had no other choice.

#47
ItsOnlyAGame
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.

#49
FightWasTaken
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vlr should ban threads like this 99% of the shit people are posting is misleading

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