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You KNOW Aspas won't even touch tier 1 CS

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gentler

And destroying SEN by himself

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zywoo wouldnt touch tier 1 val? does that mean hes shit? hell no. wtf is ur braindead reasoning

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Manaphy
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It took 2 years for Ethan to win a trophy and by that time he was well into Val. nt tho

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Cookierookie577
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L bait

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YvngKurry [#2]

zywoo wouldnt touch tier 1 val? does that mean hes shit? hell no. wtf is ur braindead reasoning

he would btw but that's not the point

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Zaba
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? cs and valorant the only thing in common they have is that they are fps

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Manaphy [#3]

It took 2 years for Ethan to win a trophy and by that time he was well into Val. nt tho

Ethan is a NA goofy guy
He is not good by default

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YvngKurry
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Gutssz [#5]

he would btw but that's not the point

no tf he would not. lmfaooo

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Gutssz [#5]

he would btw but that's not the point

no he wouldn't

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Gutssz [#5]

he would btw but that's not the point

VAL fans really thinks zywoo wouldn't be at t1 level in Valorant? LMAOOO

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Zaba [#6]

? cs and valorant the only thing in common they have is that they are fps

the only thing in common is the WHOLE genre?
LOL

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doctaw
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he was manually banned from cs gamersclub because he was too good

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Cookierookie577
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Gutssz [#10]

VAL fans really thinks zywoo wouldn't be at t1 level in Valorant? LMAOOO

yea? cause its a different game......

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gentler [#7]

Ethan is a NA goofy guy
He is not good by default

Good thing he was hltv top 20 the year before Val was released.

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YvngKurry
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Gutssz [#10]

VAL fans really thinks zywoo wouldn't be at t1 level in Valorant? LMAOOO

he wouldnt understand how to use util at all lol. val is so much more than just shooting ur gun

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cs2 andies are deranged lul

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Cookierookie577 [#13]

yea? cause its a different game......

really? good point

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gentler
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YvngKurry [#2]

zywoo wouldnt touch tier 1 val? does that mean hes shit? hell no. wtf is ur braindead reasoning

did he try and fail?

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YvngKurry [#15]

he wouldnt understand how to use util at all lol. val is so much more than just shooting ur gun

so tier 2 tier 3 CS players who switched to Valorant can use utils perfectly not but tier 1 CS player? Let alone one of the best?
Hmm go on, I wanna see more stupidity, typical Russian

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YvngKurry [#15]

he wouldnt understand how to use util at all lol. val is so much more than just shooting ur gun

he wouldnt understand

haha, nice prove

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gentler [#19]

so tier 2 tier 3 CS players who switched to Valorant can use utils perfectly not but tier 1 CS player? Let alone one of the best?
Hmm go on, I wanna see more stupidity, typical Russian

that happened when the game first came out, it would be much more difficult to switch now, stop dickriding

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gentler [#19]

so tier 2 tier 3 CS players who switched to Valorant can use utils perfectly not but tier 1 CS player? Let alone one of the best?
Hmm go on, I wanna see more stupidity, typical Russian

lol cause they played the game first and get better. It only make sense you do well the more time you put in a game. Tier 1 cs pros switching now would be so lost with all the util and team comps.

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Cookierookie577 [#21]

that happened when the game first came out, it would be much more difficult to switch now, stop dickriding

sorry but it's a shame to say that zywoo can't be at t1 level in Valorant

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emirerays
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Gutssz [#5]

he would btw but that's not the point

saçmalama be nereye tier 1 oynayack

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emirerays [#24]

saçmalama be nereye tier 1 oynayack

aynen zywoo t1 oynayamaz sen yapma bari mk
7-8 ay off-season var neredeyse 2-3 ay çalışsa oynasa zywoo gibi adam t1 olmayacak mı sence mk

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Gutssz [#23]

sorry but it's a shame to say that zywoo can't be at t1 level in Valorant

floppy literally is playing CS2 t1 and he fucking failed in valorant its a different game now, it's not a bad thing that a pro can't be pro in a DIFFERENT game

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Cookierookie577 [#21]

that happened when the game first came out, it would be much more difficult to switch now, stop dickriding

so there wouldn't be anyone who is completely new that can be good at Valorant?
so there wouldn't be a guy named Karon who became a world class player who was completely new to FPS?
so there wouldn't be a possibility they can learn the game with time, given their expertise in FPS in general?

Site is filled with stupid college kids

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Cookierookie577 [#26]

floppy literally is playing CS2 t1 and he fucking failed in valorant its a different game now, it's not a bad thing that a pro can't be pro in a DIFFERENT game

it's just interesting to think that the chances of him not being tier 1 are more than the chances of him being tier 1

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gentler [#27]

so there wouldn't be anyone who is completely new that can be good at Valorant?
so there wouldn't be a guy named Karon who became a world class player who was completely new to FPS?
so there wouldn't be a possibility they can learn the game with time, given their expertise in FPS in general?

Site is filled with stupid college kids

The bait of doom.

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Gutssz [#28]

it's just interesting to think that the chances of him not being tier 1 are more than the chances of him being tier 1

we don't know his chances, but you can't just use the logic of him being good at CS will automatically make him a god at valorant or sum

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Cookierookie577 [#30]

we don't know his chances, but you can't just use the logic of him being good at CS will automatically make him a god at valorant or sum

but seeing a higher chance of him not being t1?

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Aspas played CS and was banned from GamersClub manually because he used to just bought AK and shield, didn't comm and just shoot people's heads

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shzuo [#32]

Aspas played CS and was banned from GamersClub manually because he used to just bought AK and shield, didn't comm and just shoot people's heads

And he was accused of cheating many times on CS and Valorant (when he went to Valorant after get banned on GC)

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Gutssz [#31]

but seeing a higher chance of him not being t1?

I don't know his chances he's never played the game..

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gentler
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shzuo [#33]

And he was accused of cheating many times on CS and Valorant (when he went to Valorant after get banned on GC)

TenZ was accused of cheating in CS in the beginning. It's not something special where special people accuse anyone doing anything they don't like

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Hyopic
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Gutssz [#31]

but seeing a higher chance of him not being t1?

I mean s1mple underperforms in low immortal lobbies and he has like 400 hours. I wouldn't doubt he could get T1 but to say that it would be easy or something is an overstatement. The op, rifling, utility, meta, etc is so much different from CS that the only thing that they share is being a tac FPS.

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Hyopic [#36]

I mean s1mple underperforms in low immortal lobbies and he has like 400 hours. I wouldn't doubt he could get T1 but to say that it would be easy or something is an overstatement. The op, rifling, utility, meta, etc is so much different from CS that the only thing that they share is being a tac FPS.

Are we really going to consider ranked performance?

We know he plays randomly without even using skills (he plays Reyna lmao)

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emirerays
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Gutssz [#25]

aynen zywoo t1 oynayamaz sen yapma bari mk
7-8 ay off-season var neredeyse 2-3 ay çalışsa oynasa zywoo gibi adam t1 olmayacak mı sence mk

olm ne anlatıyorsun sen çok büyük fark var 2 oyun arasında valodakler neden csde kötü sence

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emirerays [#38]

olm ne anlatıyorsun sen çok büyük fark var 2 oyun arasında valodakler neden csde kötü sence

yekindar, calyx falan demiyoruz farkındaysan zywoo diyoruz mk
neyse senle gece 5 te tartışasım yok he banane mk öptüm seni bye

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Gutssz [#37]

Are we really going to consider ranked performance?

We know he plays randomly without even using skills (he plays Reyna lmao)

I mean yeah, if CS skill translates to VALORANT then S1mple wouldn't even need to move out of spawn to drop 30 every ranked game dude.

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emirerays
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Gutssz [#39]

yekindar, calyx falan demiyoruz farkındaysan zywoo diyoruz mk
neyse senle gece 5 te tartışasım yok he banane mk öptüm seni bye

bebeğim s1mple oyun çıktığından beri oynuyor sadece reyna oynuyor amk oyunu doğru dürüst bilmiyor bile zywoo dediğin adam cs1.6dan beri oynuyordur csde iyi olması başka bir fps oyununda iyi olacağının garantisi değil

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emirerays [#41]

bebeğim s1mple oyun çıktığından beri oynuyor sadece reyna oynuyor amk oyunu doğru dürüst bilmiyor bile zywoo dediğin adam cs1.6dan beri oynuyordur csde iyi olması başka bir fps oyununda iyi olacağının garantisi değil

olm ben zaten yarım saattir ne anlatıyorum? bu arada s1mple tasagına oynuyor mk

zywoo'nun t1 olma ihtimali > olmama ihtimali bu kadar basit mk

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gentler [#35]

TenZ was accused of cheating in CS in the beginning. It's not something special where special people accuse anyone doing anything they don't like

was tenz banned by GC?

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emirerays
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Gutssz [#42]

olm ben zaten yarım saattir ne anlatıyorum? bu arada s1mple tasagına oynuyor mk

zywoo'nun t1 olma ihtimali > olmama ihtimali bu kadar basit mk

Iste oyle kesin değil diyorum sana bende bana gore eşit ihtimalleri bilemezsin onu gormeden

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Gutssz [#37]

Are we really going to consider ranked performance?

We know he plays randomly without even using skills (he plays Reyna lmao)

the what are you gonna consider? he has never played any oficial valorant tournament, nivera has and he wasnt tiers below zywoo or s1mple yet he wasnt even picked up this year by a franchising team so he had to leave val to play cs again

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gentler [#11]

the only thing in common is the WHOLE genre?
LOL

yes, having the same genre doesnt mean they are the same, if the best dota player goes to league of legends is he winning it all?

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Yoorake
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Manaphy [#3]

It took 2 years for Ethan to win a trophy and by that time he was well into Val. nt tho

I agree with you, but winning trophy ≠ skill. Ethan was always a top 5 to best flex since he started playing val. So someone as young as zywoo would defo be in best itw convos

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Yoorake [#47]

I agree with you, but winning trophy ≠ skill. Ethan was always a top 5 to best flex since he started playing val. So someone as young as zywoo would defo be in best itw convos

But he wasn't dominating like this guy implies he would given his status in CS. What I'm saying is they are two very different games so treating VAL as the easier game mechanically game is fine and thinking he would have an easier time even though they have different shooting styles and movement is even fine to an extent but treating it as the easier game isn't when the pressure of meta shifts, agent diversity, and different game knowledge is what makes me doubtful that he would just pick up the and immediately be him. He could or maybe he wouldn't who know.

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Yoorake [#47]

I agree with you, but winning trophy ≠ skill. Ethan was always a top 5 to best flex since he started playing val. So someone as young as zywoo would defo be in best itw convos

ethan wasn't a top 5 flex for like 1.5 years from after LCQ 2021 to Mid way through 2023's league stage, before that i don't even think players were categorized as flex players yet

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Gutssz [#37]

Are we really going to consider ranked performance?

We know he plays randomly without even using skills (he plays Reyna lmao)

idk what they are cooking but zywoo can reach tier 1 val, you have carpe who started learning val 1 month prior when franchised was announced, IF zywoo wants to become tier1 and a team is ready to take him he can reach tier 1

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nematoma
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gentler [#35]

TenZ was accused of cheating in CS in the beginning. It's not something special where special people accuse anyone doing anything they don't like

being so good that you are banned is different aspas is that guy and you cant deny it

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