is VS actually good

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ASTEROIDCHILD

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I watch VS gameplay and I cannot tell if they are that good or the rest of the region is a meme

For mechanics all of them are very strong. I’m pretty sure they can keep up with the top of NA/EU in terms of shooting. And unlike NUTURN at Iceland they don’t have any weaknesses, like solo and peri (even suggest and allow were inconsistent)

The fact that lakia, who went crazy at Iceland is on the bench for most maps makes me think they’re either dumb as hell or geniuses. But idk. What do you guys think.

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SETSUZA

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99% sure they are saving lakia for surprise comps at Berlin

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Saving lakia just to lose to SEN

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Fuck off sen fanboy

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FireII

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good intent, bad response

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I told him to fuck off, do you want me to kidnap him, pull ot his rectum and fill it with acid and then put it back in so that he can feel like being eaten from the inside out.

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FireII

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yes of course

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mb I will do better next time

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arzuluvkitty

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inv me if you want to do so
im good with all this stuff

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Sketchy2k21

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Ye i will let you know next time

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vollizie

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yes

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Asphyxia

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Pretty sure they are just integrating Lakia. Rb has been playing quite a bit more Sova recently and Lakia has been picking it up every so often. I'm guessing we'll see mostly Lakia with Rb appearing on select maps to play Raze and Sage.

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fulano

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maybe

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I'm valorant big fan, so I watch every region matchs.

VS is best team in asia. -> there is no objection .
before, they have a lot of trophy in asia tournaments. but they have not experience of Na / Eu teams.
I think VS have great potential power. so lakia in the bench is not strange.
If you watch Kr region game play, VS member is so much perfect in Kr / Asia.

only Kr / asia,

stax = kr no.1 rifler (perfect aim)
RB = Stable aim and good utility
mako = best smoker
king = god of defence
buzz = kr no.1 zett with seoldam
Lakia = verified in the world.

every Na/ eu fans think strange of lakia bench. because lakia showed good perform in iceland.
but i think, lakia bench is right. He recently joined the roster, then he doesn't match his teammate.

VS is verified in Kr / asia region.
maybe, they will have good result in berlin.
if i overrated, they are same tear with 100T, envy, G2. (^^)

but not sentinels.

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thanks for the info, this is interesting ^_^

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Asphyxia

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I don't think BuZz is korea's best jett. But def top 3. And Seoldam is prob not even top 3 lmfao. BuZz is a very good player though. K1ng sometimes looks lackluster to me but it's prob because he's not a flash duelist. He's a good player though. And MaKo looks very good. Stax is probably one of the best riflers just like you said. And Lakia is Lakia. I'm personally not the biggest fan or Rb. But his sova and sage look pretty good with his util usage and just all around playstyle seems to just fit everywhere.

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what do you think who is the best zett in Kr?

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Asphyxia

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Hmmm. I don't know who would be top 1 honestly. But I think there are quite a few candidates that are debatable. T3xture, Meteor, HANN, allow, Chibab, and Hyeoni. Some of these are complete jokies. But I think the first 4 are very big contenders for being some of the best. I don't think allow is better than BuZz though. T3xture is just a very good jett and same with meteor. He seems to make TNL look so much better and he was previously on I need girlfriend. I can definitely see this TNL roster doing very well in the near future. HANN is someone you wouldn't think of. But you probably don't notice him because it's too hard to carry WGS. And also his other agents look pretty good as well. He has decent util usage and he's a monster of a player. Def someone I'd surprisingly put as a contender for one of the best jetts in korea. Chibab is a new talent which will prob get really good in the future and Hyeoni. Idk about Hyeoni. He looked super good recently. But before that. He looks very ehh. Idk what to think about him. Let's see him land on a good team and see where he can reach.

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Hyeoni is the best jett it's not a question in my mind. After that I think it's t3xture. I feel meteor is a little lackluster. Allow has too many games where i feel like he is totally silent, but sometimes he really just pops off. I don't really no much about Chibab. I definitely think the best 3 are hyeoni, t3xture and buzz. If hyeoni falls off from this recent tourneey then t3xture is the best with buzz in second for me and i guess allow or meteor is 3.

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yeah right, buzz and seoldam are both pretty meh jetts id say. the top jetts in kr are definitely texture and hyeoni. theyre a league above everyone else.

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Considering that nuturn did really well during Reykjavík and VS beat that the team that beat Nutrun and its Korea id say they would be around or just bellow SEN in skill I would not be surprised if they make a solid run in berlin

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Asphyxia

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Nuturn had Lakia before. Vision Strikers has Lakia now. I'm not quite sure where they'll place. But basing it off of how well Nuturn did. Is not that good. Considering Nuturn only beat two teams that weren't that good. Sharks honestly looked shit during that time. And Version 1 fluked against Liquid because Liquid just love to choke.

I think Vision Strikers will do well though. I think probably top 6 placement is expected of them.

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Nuturn got 3rd at Iceland and this team is 5x better than them. They are all able to keep up with top of na/eu in terms of aim and mechanics. As someone who has watched a lot of their games I can tell you they have good strats. Only problem with them is that their executes never get challenged and they just speedrun every match by just doing fast executes. Their coaching staff is really good with glow being a very experienced igl in cs. The main thing to see is if they can change the pace and play more defaulty and slow because every match they just rush and skill diff because they have basically all of the best korean aimers aside from t3xture on dwg. This team should make top 8 no matter what and should aim for a semi-final at berlin. I would not be surprised if they made grand finals. Depending how well prepped they are they have the potential imo to win the tournament but that might be stretching it a little. Definitely a world class team.

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Asphyxia

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I feel like the 3rd place finish for Nuturn is deceiving to how well they played. Because they only had to really beat Sharks and Version 1. I mean Sharks looked just straight up dogshit. And Version 1 seemed to just kinda choked. Don't get me wrong. They are a very good team. But to say that they deserved a 3rd place finish. Just feels disingenous.

But I do agree that Vision Strikers should have high expectations just considering that this is practically a super team of all the best players in KR.

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GhostCat

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It is deceptive, but regardless of that I still think VS are insane, every player on that team is really good and they should be aiming for a semi-final

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Actually korea have like 5 strong teams but competition was one sided until stage 2...from then competition became intresting..all teams became stronger from stage 2 but VS are too good

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This is true, competition is fairly tight, but VS also have like 4 top 5 players in terms of aim so they just stomp everyone.

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Asphyxia

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Vision Strikers is currently a super team which has practically all of the best players in the region. This is probably a team that will be expected to be top 4. But I'm only expecting top 6 in Berlin because I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed.

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aim wise id say vs are top 1% kr, top 5% pro world. they have good set plays, and if any team doesnt anti strat them or says they're just gonna play their own game then they lose against vs. this is true for most kr teams. they do not let people save most of the time, i remember stax just hunting every savers down. they kinda play the long game, choosing to read the plays before showing their own. this playstyle obv wont work against sentinels cause they will antistrat mid rounds, maybe a tall ask to go against cneds and nukkyes of eu. but i see them winning against 100t/nv atleast.

as a vs/lakia fan (was nu fan for iceland), the minimum for me is 9th place, cause thats what they need to get to champions on points. and they shouldnt lose to anyone but na/emea, anything less would be an underperformance for me as a vs supporter.