What would Asuna_Yuuki do.... Take out his? rage on sen fans for the sunset game?
Blame loud for being losers?
IMO I would blame chet
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Imagine if NRG lose
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You're so pretentious you're insufferable lmao, even if thats what u interpret, who gives a fuck? You're starting this whole thing for literally zero reason other than wanting to appear intelligent on a niche forum, how pathetic
Even then, you'd be wrong. It isn't a contradiction, at all. You're ASSUMING it is. You said kickoff really changed him, and honestly it is vague as to 'how' it changed him in the first place, so the premise isn't really all there. However, he responds to the vaguely worded premise and says "I've always been like this", so he is REBUTTING your premise that he changed in the first place. This implies that the change you are suggesting happen to him after kickoff, which is likely a change of I guess not being 'delusional' or 'extremely confident about team skill' (?), was not needed in the firs tplace because he was never like that.
And that can be true as well, Asuna was just very confident in NRG, and he had no reason to believe otherwise when it was 5 world champs and they 2-0'd both teams in their group. They literally almost beat SEN as well, so clearly his confidences were not unfounded. His rebuttal to your premise is that he's always open to being critical of his team and not 'delusional' like your premise would imply, and he accepts results after they happen and forms his opinions based off results chiefly. So when he says "I accepted we worse after we lost to SEN", that is not a contradiction at all, like your pretentious ass would presume, it is in fact reaffirming his rebuttal lmao. He's ALWAYS been conscious of results and forming opinions based off of them.
You're just whack bro. And i'm pathetic asf for even replying this long but it's always fun putting down pretentious nerds like yourself and doing better at the thing u love most than u could urself. i used to be as pretentious as u when i was like 14, grew out of it by the time iw as 16
??? The amount of things wrong in here...
Even then, you'd be wrong. It isn't a contradiction, at all. You're ASSUMING it is.
Fair, I misinterpreted what he said. That's the enitre point of this thread, because I'm incredibly confused on what he is trying to say. It's not wrong to probe deeper into what they mean.
You said kickoff really changed him, and honestly it is vague as to 'how' it changed him in the first place, so the premise isn't really all there
He changed by being much less confident in NRG, and being much more accepting when people criticize NRG.
so he is REBUTTING your premise that he changed in the first place.
Yeah. And I'm curious what he meant by that.
not 'delusional' like your premise would imply,
Now you're assuming. When did I ever say he was delusional?
he accepts results after they happen and forms his opinions based off results chiefly. So when he says "I accepted we worse after we lost to SEN", that is not a contradiction at all, like your pretentious ass would presume, it is in fact reaffirming his rebuttal lmao
Yes, and I was confused by what he meant because he didn't word things that well(IMO). I'm just curious what he meant.
but it's always fun putting down pretentious nerds like yourself and doing it better than the thing you love most.
okay, you do you <3
Edit: To clarify, the ENTIRE point of this is because I'm trying to understand what they meant, because I accidently misinterpreted what they said. How am I being a "pretentious nerd"
You didn't misinterpret what he said. It's very clear to anyone with a shroud of common sense what he meant. You're just fishing for shit to argue about and being pretentious because you're an immature little child that just discovered debating lmao.
He didn't change though, how do you know he's 'less confident in NRG'? What defines less confidence? He can simply be more realistic about his team's chances objectively but have the same amount of 'confidence' that they will win it all, because they've shown great potential. This is another assumption in your premise which leads to your argument that he is contradicting himself being false in the first place.. You dont know whether he has less confidence or not.
He isnt 'more accepting' though, he said he's always been that way but he clearly had less of a reason to accept criticism BEFORE kick off, since there was literally no reason to when no teams had any results at that point. He rebuts your premise by just stating that he's always been as accepting to criticism, just that the criticism BEFORE kickoff had little to no basis or ground to stand on, like much of your argument, which is why after kickoff, with actual results and facts, he definitely accepts the criticism.
To be fair i did have to assume ur premise, hence why i said 'imply'.
He worded things fine. You are just fishing.
I'll do me. Try to be less pretentious lil bro
To quote myself earlier:
you just said you are always like this and then immediately followed it up with "after", meaning you were not like this until a certain event passed
this was how I interpreted what he said. I was asking him to clarify. People can misintepret things all the time. For example, "Mike became a good friend of Mark's after he helped him repair his computer. Most people can assume that Mike helped Mark repair the computer. But it's also possible that Mark helped Mike fix the computer, making a sentence like: "Mike became a good friend of Mark after Mark helped Mike fix Mike's computer."
simply be more realistic about his team's chances objectively but have the same amount of 'confidence' that they will win it all, because they've shown great potential.
"Confidence" is a sliding scale as you mentioned. Being more "realisitic" is the same thing as having less confidence IMO. Saying "We're going to win cause we're the best!" versus "We might win", means that you have less confidence in yourself to win.
he said he's always been that way but he clearly had less of a reason to accept criticism BEFORE kick off, since there was literally no reason to when no teams had any results at that point. He rebuts your premise by just stating that he's always been as accepting to criticism, just that the criticism BEFORE kickoff had little to no basis or ground to stand on, like much of your argument, which is why after kickoff, with actual results and facts, he definitely accepts the criticism.
Yes, and this was what I was trying to understand. I am asking them for what they meant.
Try to be less pretentious lil bro
we don't need to put each other down, let's have a normal debate, yeah?
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