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#1
Kiko

I'm ngl some of these rosters look like hot garbo compared to last year, hopefully the quality doesn't drop significantly. I feel like theres no hope for teams like winthrop and thinking men to beat oxg/mxs/m80 without significant roster changes. It is valorant, however, and anything can happen.

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Nachtel
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Tier 3 talent pool is individually a lot more on par with Tier2 and Tier 1 than people realize imo

Last year nobody really believed in BreakThru and Turtle Troops after they made it past open qualifiers, whereas now their players are on MxS and getting poached to farm in Tier 1 APAC.

I think yeah they might probably suck at the start of the season but if they get their reps in scrimming the VCT teams they'll be fine

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Kiko
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Nachtel [#2]

Tier 3 talent pool is individually a lot more on par with Tier2 and Tier 1 than people realize imo

Last year nobody really believed in BreakThru and Turtle Troops after they made it past open qualifiers, whereas now their players are on MxS and getting poached to farm in Tier 1 APAC.

I think yeah they might probably suck at the start of the season but if they get their reps in scrimming the VCT teams they'll be fine

im not sure thats necessarily true, last year almost every player in tier 2 was "tier 1" prior to the franchised leagues, even breakthru and tt. This year we don't really have that. I want to have faith in winthrop because theyre a collegiate team and its cool to see. I just can't realistically see them ever beating the top tier vcl teams.

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Kiko [#3]

im not sure thats necessarily true, last year almost every player in tier 2 was "tier 1" prior to the franchised leagues, even breakthru and tt. This year we don't really have that. I want to have faith in winthrop because theyre a collegiate team and its cool to see. I just can't realistically see them ever beating the top tier vcl teams.

I guess that's true for players like Flyuh, Rossy, and aproto, but thi3f, sym, brawk, and governor were all up-and-comers.

ngl tho I kind of agree that winthrop won't be good but its not bc of the players I just think it's going to be hard for them to get enough practice in compared to other teams while also having to juggle their classes--since they're like actually attending college while playing lol

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Nachtel [#4]

I guess that's true for players like Flyuh, Rossy, and aproto, but thi3f, sym, brawk, and governor were all up-and-comers.

ngl tho I kind of agree that winthrop won't be good but its not bc of the players I just think it's going to be hard for them to get enough practice in compared to other teams while also having to juggle their classes--since they're like actually attending college while playing lol

yeah i agree, im not saying that mechanically theres no hope for them. im just saying since the high end t2 teams are constantly practicing vs tier 1 rosters it will be super hard for them to succeed.

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huhferno
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i dont see any team coming close to m80 or oxg tbh

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HackNaija
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YFP and SaD are better than every team other than m80

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DdoggyVII
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Hopefully OXG destroys, I really wanna see Dapr in franchising

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Kiko
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HackNaija [#7]

YFP and SaD are better than every team other than m80

w hopium

#10
DecimateYKTV
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its between m80 and oxg who make it

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DecimateYKTV [#10]

its between m80 and oxg who make it

ill wait to see how m80 play before putting them above mxs

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