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is TSM tier 1

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#1
hiyo

?
also if ur name starts with "Chupappi" or has "TSM" in it ur opinion is automatically weighed less

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chesimac
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low tier one probably yeah

#3
Aris
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DarkZero Esports fan mad rn HUH

#4
ihitthat
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tier 1 org but tier 2 team in valorant right now used to be tier 1 tho

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ranker11
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just like faze imt geng

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Asphyxia
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Not tier 1. If they beat another tier 1 team or two. Then they'll be tier 1. But just beating one tier 1 team isn't quite enough.

#8
ihitthat
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another? lol dz is tier 2

#10
hiyo
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yeah I agree tbh, we're just not there yet

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Asphyxia
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I consider Andbox tier 1. But I don't consider DarkZero tier 1 yet.

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hacklesacka
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top tier 2

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ranker11
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did they beat any of the top 5 teams?

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Aris
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ANDBOX was top 8 NA

#12
hiyo
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andbox with thwifo is not top 8 NA

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Aris
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do u watch plat chat or streames?

#18
hiyo
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what? they've had thwifo for like 2 weeks they aren't going to be back to form

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hiyo
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also who cares about plat chat they literally were praising bronzil

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ranker11
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yeah I watch them they love putting up crappy stuff to keep the viewers happy

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ranker11
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yeah "was" not after losing seb and boi

#15
ChupappiWardell
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Why

#24
winsbal
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kekw chuppapi wardell is everywhere

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beefcakermaker
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I wouldnt say so. I think if they do well in the main event in a few days then the argument could be brought but but they literally havent qualified for ANYTHING in 2021 i think, thats almost 7 months of nothing, when we have had a shit load of tournaments. If they qualify for berling steadily without shakeups id give them t1

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hellaeleganceyeah
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let them make kinda deep in the challengers main event then theyll have made tier1.

#22
Swiftmal
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If they make finals you could say yes

#23
gradualhorizon
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If they qualify for playoffs I would say yes they are a tier 1 team.

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NU_Peri
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If they can beat V1, and Geng, Rise and make challnager playoffs maybe

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connorwalsh
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The new roster could be tier 1 but I don’t see clear strategies from TSM, they have a basic and default comp and it’s more about their aim, that’s why they throw so much and they go to OT in maps where they could close it sooner. If they’d have better micros/macros, they could become tier 1

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