EMEA vs NA talent pool

NA talent = EMEA talent

But

Because NA tier 2 is so consolidated, there is a larger quantity of known tier 2 talent; with a select few teams all competing against each other from the start and continuously upgrading their rosters with players that didn't make it into challengers but who deserve it, it makes the process of scouting players a lot easier especially when trying to filter performances to those against better teams.

EMEA has the exact same or maybe even better talent but the issue is that we don't know who's good or not. There's superstars from Tier 2 like wo0t and Enzo but because of how shit the EMEA tier 2 system is not a lot of them get recognized. Sub regions like Turkey with a deep pool of talent are not able to play against the rest of Europe enough for a scout to be able to properly compare them to other European teams. You have endless hordes of EMEA tier 2 duelists with a 1.2 rating on jett but with no guarantee how they'll perform against Liquid or Vitality

The entire CIS region is arguably Europe's biggest fire being deprived of oxygen by riot over real life politics and beyond that is still under the same limitations as Turkey.

The only players you end up being able to look at are ones that made playoffs but that still buries wayyy too much talent. I mean in NA just look at MXM. They were better than half of franchised NA teams yet they didn't even manage to make playoffs. Flyuh is imo the best player not in franchising in Americas right now

tl;dr the more consolidated your tier 2 scene is the greater concentration of talent you'll have and many more chances to highlight diamonds in the rough throughout a whole season rather than a week long playoffs

Its sad that us eu fans wont be able to beat any na teams anymore with their talent pool😭

NA t2 talent just won a champs, not really sure how this is even a debate

Eu_hater [#2]

Its sad that us eu fans wont be able to beat any na teams anymore with their talent pool😭

Bro said us EU fans with that name and flag

yoyoyo_8382 [#4]

Bro said us EU fans with that name and flag

As an eu fan, I agree with them. It's kinda true tbh 😭

cboomer [#3]

NA t2 talent just won a champs, not really sure how this is even a debate

its 1 team,the only player from tier 2 was demon1,the others have been paying in vct since 2022 or longer

moatz [#5]

As an eu fan, I agree with them. It's kinda true tbh 😭

im from madagascar and my fav is prx 🗿

The caveat of NA being so condensed is the inability for new talent to break into the scene.
Some challengers team will pick up older players due to the fact they have experience working in a team and a competitive environment.

xanvlrt is insane but ranked demon i havent seen him in pro play

capital_d_colon [#8]

The caveat of NA being so condensed is the inability for new talent to break into the scene.
Some challengers team will pick up older players due to the fact they have experience working in a team and a competitive environment.

still though, imagine how hard it is for an italian player to break into the scene right now. the whole sub region is so shit that any actual talents will be overlooked

bronzil_enjoyer [#7]

im from madagascar and my fav is prx 🗿

ty for sharing. im from england and my favorite team is karmine corp :)

Kkonakorner [#6]

its 1 team,the only player from tier 2 was demon1,the others have been paying in vct since 2022 or longer

t1 is like a top 5 team in each region before franchising, eg were tier 2 demon1 was on a tier 3 team

cboomer [#12]

t1 is like a top 5 team in each region before franchising, eg were tier 2 demon1 was on a tier 3 team

who the fuck came up with this ranking,ive never heard anyne say a vct team outside top is tier 2

Kkonakorner [#13]

who the fuck came up with this ranking,ive never heard anyne say a vct team outside top is tier 2

tier 1 is international competitors, no way you think NRG and NCIS were the same level of team.. same way NRG and Optic were completely different levels

Ethan was the only EG player that played in the finals who had ever touched T1 consistently

cboomer [#14]

tier 1 is international competitors, no way you think NRG and NCIS were the same level of team.. same way NRG and Optic were completely different levels

Ethan was the only EG player that played in the finals who had ever touched T1 consistently

bruh u are just making up ur own shit ofc they arent the same level but they both play at the same level that is tier 1,eg just made 2 great moves and became a way better team

bro just wanted to use the word consolidated

Kkonakorner [#15]

bruh u are just making up ur own shit ofc they arent the same level but they both play at the same level that is tier 1,eg just made 2 great moves and became a way better team

no they dont lmfao optic played international teams while eg played NA teams the t1 t2 t3 bullshit is copied from every other game.. in no world is a team that shit tier 1

let go of your low iq.. eg won champs with t2-3 talent

The best T2 EMEA team was still top 8 itw tho

cboomer [#17]

no they dont lmfao optic played international teams while eg played NA teams the t1 t2 t3 bullshit is copied from every other game.. in no world is a team that shit tier 1

let go of your low iq.. eg won champs with t2-3 talent

The best T2 EMEA team was still top 8 itw tho

wtf are the "tiers" in ur head,nobody calls anything in vct level tier 2 or 3 there is a scene called the tier 2 scene below vct,in other games when taking of teams who are good enough to qualify and play in bigger events but are kinda shit people always say tier 1.5

Nachtel [#10]

still though, imagine how hard it is for an italian player to break into the scene right now. the whole sub region is so shit that any actual talents will be overlooked

as it stands every sub region of emea (Except MENA) will have a player who played in their domestic league in VCT for 2024.

Would lesser talent even get a chance to play if the leagues were consolidated?

Kkonakorner [#18]

wtf are the "tiers" in ur head,nobody calls anything in vct level tier 2 or 3 there is a scene called the tier 2 scene below vct,in other games when taking of teams who are good enough to qualify and play in bigger events but are kinda shit people always say tier 1.5

t1 is international, last year that was teams competing to or qualifying to international lans - t2 is the teams who are at the top of NA but aren't competing internationally at all - sen NRG ghost were T2 team examples T3 are teams that arent going far in any sort of riot sponsored events like NSIC (jakees old team)

this year t1 is franchised, t2 is vcls, t3 is teams relegated (disguised, mad lions - in this case OR is bottom t2 now) and anything below that idc

yoyoyo_8382 [#4]

Bro said us EU fans with that name and flag

i mean i myself am i fan of the european region, yet i agree wholeheartedly with his statement.

cboomer [#20]

t1 is international, last year that was teams competing to or qualifying to international lans - t2 is the teams who are at the top of NA but aren't competing internationally at all - sen NRG ghost were T2 team examples T3 are teams that arent going far in any sort of riot sponsored events like NSIC (jakees old team)

this year t1 is franchised, t2 is vcls, t3 is teams relegated (disguised, mad lions - in this case OR is bottom t2 now) and anything below that idc

so fpx,acend and gambit were all tier 2-3 talent??? Wtf are these rules ur making up what the fuck are these based on

moatz [#11]

ty for sharing. im from england and my favorite team is karmine corp :)

Traitor

jawn [#16]

bro just wanted to use the word consolidated

bro thinks consolidated is a big boy word LOL

capital_d_colon [#19]

as it stands every sub region of emea (Except MENA) will have a player who played in their domestic league in VCT for 2024.

Would lesser talent even get a chance to play if the leagues were consolidated?

wait am i missing something, who's the italian in vct rn?

Nachtel [#25]

wait am i missing something, who's the italian in vct rn?

Not Italian but Marteen played in Italy in 2023, both splits for GMT.
He's rumoured to join KC

Nachtel [#24]

bro thinks consolidated is a big boy word LOL

you sound consolidated

jawn [#27]

you sound consolidated

you sound constipated

OoscaMc [#23]

Traitor

:(

moatz [#29]

:(

but i thought u were m3c fan from uzbeckistan. do u want to support a fraud sub-region?

Kkonakorner [#22]

so fpx,acend and gambit were all tier 2-3 talent??? Wtf are these rules ur making up what the fuck are these based on

i said competing to qualify.. did fpx gambit and acend ever consistently fail to compete to QUALIFY?

100t and the guard were probably bottom of NA tier 1 last year (22) NRG were like 7-10th in NA imo last year def t2

cboomer [#31]

i said competing to qualify.. did fpx gambit and acend ever consistently fail to compete to QUALIFY?

100t and the guard were probably bottom of NA tier 1 last year (22) NRG were like 7-10th in NA imo last year def t2

qualify for what,literally nobody else uses this ranking ur saying ur literally just pulling some random shit from us ass and acting like its the standard of ranking wtf lmfaoo

Eu_hater [#30]

but i thought u were m3c fan from uzbeckistan. do u want to support a fraud sub-region?

it's an experiment to see how long it takes for the flag to affect my brain