why TSM lost | VLR.gg

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mattgg2015

because their entire team is filled with tier 3 bums CS. They fluked their way to being good in the first half of 2020 because they were the first to play the game. Their lack of work ethic and nonchalance that all hindered them in CS is showing itself again here

this argument cant be used with teams like SEN and 100T because their players actually accomplished something in CS and worked hard and were decent... these TSM bots werent and are only famous because they played the game when it first came out

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Hazed is the only won who plays ranked consistently... and look at him... he's been doing the best on the team... or look at leaf... mans a God at Val cyz of ranked... TSM ego is too big they need to play more ranked lol

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thats true tbh it all went downhill from the point wardell touched tarkov
now he sucks
drone is just a bot with sova (and wtf brim?)
subroza is the most inconsistent mf
hazed is the most consistant but he will never carry a team to victory
bang who the omegalul is he and why is he playing pheonix cus hes pretty damn bad from what ive seen against noble

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Hes good he just needs to be on controller

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Wardell achieved rank 5 radiant last season. Idk how you do that without playing ranked a lot. Also wardell doesnt suck its mainly subroza and drone

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shadowzin272

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that argument does work when talking SEN
what has shahz/sick/dapr/tenz achieved in CS?

the only NA valorant players that actually achieved anything on cs are hiko/nitr0/ethan and maybe the chaos boys but when NA cs was dead

edit: forgot about ska and auti

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ElementalDj

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Shahz and Sick were great on MIsfits if anyone remembers that tho

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shadowzin272

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depends
id consider sucessful as having multiple high placements in tier1 tourneys
can only remember them doing decent in epl s6 and the faceit major

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HaSanity

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watch seangares interview on shahz when he was on c9

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Leaf, and vanity are by far more succeful than hiko and nitro

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shadowzin272

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what?
what am i reading?
u gotta be trolling

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Wdym? Vanity made it to Iceland and Leaf almost made it to iceland... and they are favorites to make it to Iceland this time around... whereas 100T have finished 6th-7th every masters or masters quals

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shadowzin272

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bro
we are talking about success in COUNTER STRIKE GLOBAL OFFENSIVE CSGO

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It's a valoranr forum why we talking about CS

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shadowzin272

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the guy talked about cs

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FireII

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nitr0: has an intel grand slam
leaf & vanity: won some online na only tourneys

this clown (eu_quiet): "Leaf, and vanity are by far more succeful than hiko and nitro"

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I thought we were talking about val

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Tell me you know nothing about CS without telling me you know nothing about CS

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mattgg2015

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Didn’t shaz and sick qualify to 2 or 3 majors? They were miles ahead of ghost

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shadowzin272

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i mean
not miles ahead
but a bit ahead
would still put em both in t2 NA

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Sick was in MDL and shahz was retired basically

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ppl rlly gotta stop comparing val to cs. There different games. They have different talent. do we see anyone saying OvErWATCH Is BETeTer THEn ValOrAnt AnD FaZe has only tier 4 overwatch players(never watched ow so idk how good they where all ik is rawkus won the wc). THERE DIFFERENT GAMES. VALORANT IS SIMILAR TO CS BUT THERE NOT THE FUCKING SAME GAME. stop trying to compare each other and just let them live peacefully together. They both have similar mechanics, but the same could be said about a number of games. Saying that a team lost bc there all t3 cs players makes no sense. So your saying that the team they lost to is t2 or t1 cs players? if thats not the case that argument doesnt make any sens at all