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Cheaters, Boosters and 5 stacking.

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Zaps

5 stacking is ridiculous right now in higher elo with boosters and cheaters like the 5 stack I ran across today. where you can clearly see the difference from Jan 14th till today. Like even their username is sus lol. Dude went from an average of 135 tracker score to over 900 and almost MVP every game. It was obvious they had additional information when non was given and went from only hitting headshots when their whole team was alive, to being a complete bot when they had potential spectators or when they were called out. Even losing some games to not be obvious is my best guess. Maybe I’m wrong and the account was given to a smurf, but regardless it’s still against the rules and closet cheaters are definitely out there on a bigger scale then I believe most think. Personally, I thought there were little to no cheaters on Valorant until 5 stacking and having a few solo games recently where players headshot rate and information knowledge was a bit too good in their more recent games. I’m also not talking about just a day etc… cuz I get that ppl have insane days and bad days but it normally fluctuates and you don’t have an over 800 score increase consistently, like the above example. The craziest thing is that It’s literally been over a month and the smurf/booster or more likely hacker has been active. It’s absolutely insane and I do believe Valorant anti-cheat is superior to most, but I fear this will soon become like csgo matchmaking if something isn’t done soon. Like the addition of replays, elo clawback, or whatever. The saddest part is that some people who are queued with these players may have no idea, or complete understanding of what’s happening related to what I had mentioned above, as they tend to toggle on and off based on potential spectators. Also forgive me if some of the context is missing, as I initially linked the tracker of the individual/individuals I was talking about, but after reading the TOS idk if that’s allowed. I know this is a long ass read but the more this is brought to light the better chances Valorant may allocate additional funds towards their anti-cheat budget or other solutions. I also understand this is a cat and mouse game. However, if the cat or anti cheat devs don’t have the resources, and there are tons of mice or hack devs that are heavily incentivized by huge amounts of monetary gain. Then at a certain point, the infestation of mice eat all the cheese or $ and the playerbase starves, and as a result move on to a better living situation/game or game-mode. Like CSGO FaceIt, or similarly pro 10 mans that Tarik implemented separately from mm to prevent crypto throwers. Obviously, the solution wouldn’t be that straight forward but that’s not my job to figure out. Although, I do believe elo clawback and replays would be a great starting point even though I know the latter is quite unlikely for whatever reason.

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aJAYYY
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okay

#3
cobalt21312
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alright i guess

#4
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tldr?

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a tldr for those who don't want to read all of it: "I'm bronze, I am better than everyone else, if I lose I make excuses and it's anyone else's fault but mine"

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Vortexy [#5]

a tldr for those who don't want to read all of it: "I'm bronze, I am better than everyone else, if I lose I make excuses and it's anyone else's fault but mine"

winner mindset right there

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holy shit this is your first post??

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chesimac
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Happy for u, or sorry that happened cant read all that

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Zaps
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SAMPV6 [#7]

holy shit this is your first post??

Yeah, I’m not one to post or say anything really but I do enjoy Valorant a lot and just don’t want to see it go the direction CSGO went by hopefully bringing some more light to the situation, which many already know about.

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Vortexy [#5]

a tldr for those who don't want to read all of it: "I'm bronze, I am better than everyone else, if I lose I make excuses and it's anyone else's fault but mine"

“high elo” sentance 1 and not excuses if you actually read the post, just hoping a game I really like doesn’t get ruined in the long term. Summery for those who don’t want to read. 5 stack boosting and cheating is becoming more prevalent. Maybe if more people spotlight the situation the anti-chat team will receive additional resources to find a better solution. People have recommended replay, which is unlikely, but maybe riot canal least implement elo clawback.

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i do long ass threads but aint reading all that

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ain't read that essay, but goodluck on having edater on team brotha

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titanwithpp
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I ain readi alla

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph

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Reimsy
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My vision blurred the second i opened this post

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Zaps
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koromast [#11]

i do long ass threads but aint reading all that

Lol fair enough, I feel that so made a summery a shit ton shorter as a reply above. Low key should have done that in the first place.

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Zaps [#10]

“high elo” sentance 1 and not excuses if you actually read the post, just hoping a game I really like doesn’t get ruined in the long term. Summery for those who don’t want to read. 5 stack boosting and cheating is becoming more prevalent. Maybe if more people spotlight the situation the anti-chat team will receive additional resources to find a better solution. People have recommended replay, which is unlikely, but maybe riot canal least implement elo clawback.

lmao you can't even 5 stack at "high elo"? Your little essay is riddled with inconsistencies.

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Vortexy [#17]

lmao you can't even 5 stack at "high elo"? Your little essay is riddled with inconsistencies.

why can't you 5 stack at high elo?

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C-
work on making into a paragraph, formal language and not crying for being bad

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Zaps
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gamr [#18]

why can't you 5 stack at high elo?

You can I’m immo 1 and 5 stack with my Ascendant and diamond buddies. They probably low elo and don’t know how 5 stacks work .

#21
JokesOver
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tldr next time

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gamr [#18]

why can't you 5 stack at high elo?

there are certain limitations to how many people you can queue with at different ranks

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Zaps
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Vortexy [#22]

there are certain limitations to how many people you can queue with at different ranks

Not really except for an elo percentage reduction and that’s kinda part of the problem I’m trying to address in my main post, which I’m now realizing I shouldn’t have made so long. I also shouldn’t have included a personal example I experienced, as I now see people who don’t read it all (understandably as my post is way too long admittedly) are missing the overarching conclusion, which I summarized as my initial response to your post. just look at this as an example (https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/JonnyPandaBro%23419/overview) specifically the final breeze game they played on Nov 11 where an iron smurf or hacker is carrying the radiant. Anyway, I clearly over posted and that’s my bad, but hopefully now you understand where I’m coming from because I truly do care and hope riot is more proactive then it may appear.

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Zaps [#23]

Not really except for an elo percentage reduction and that’s kinda part of the problem I’m trying to address in my main post, which I’m now realizing I shouldn’t have made so long. I also shouldn’t have included a personal example I experienced, as I now see people who don’t read it all (understandably as my post is way too long admittedly) are missing the overarching conclusion, which I summarized as my initial response to your post. just look at this as an example (https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/JonnyPandaBro%23419/overview) specifically the final breeze game they played on Nov 11 where an iron smurf or hacker is carrying the radiant. Anyway, I clearly over posted and that’s my bad, but hopefully now you understand where I’m coming from because I truly do care and hope riot is more proactive then it may appear.

lol sry i'll stop trolling. Yeah I heard about that guy too before, I think I even made a thread about it some time ago.

But the thing is, cheating/smurfing seems to be rather low on Valorant compared to a lot of games. Yes ik it can get frustrating (i'm also fairly high rank and I remember the nightmare of climbing through bronze/silver/gold, heck I remember even in my asc/immortal lobbies there were cracked top 200 players helping their buds) but Vanguard is pretty much as good as it gets for anticheat technology. New cheats are constantly developed and new anticheats are created in response, there will never be such a thing as being able to completely ban all cheats and tbh I think they've done a respectable job compared to other games.

As for smurfing, again there really doesn't seem to be much of a way to stop it. There's always the standard stuff like increase grind time to unlock in game feature like comp but the determined "her jetts" grind past it. Only somewhat reasonable solution i've heard is phone number verification, but that also comes with problems like what if you're young and don't have a phone or simply using parents' phone numbers.

just my thoughts :/

ps: sry for a bad welcome to vlr :,)

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Vortexy [#24]

lol sry i'll stop trolling. Yeah I heard about that guy too before, I think I even made a thread about it some time ago.

But the thing is, cheating/smurfing seems to be rather low on Valorant compared to a lot of games. Yes ik it can get frustrating (i'm also fairly high rank and I remember the nightmare of climbing through bronze/silver/gold, heck I remember even in my asc/immortal lobbies there were cracked top 200 players helping their buds) but Vanguard is pretty much as good as it gets for anticheat technology. New cheats are constantly developed and new anticheats are created in response, there will never be such a thing as being able to completely ban all cheats and tbh I think they've done a respectable job compared to other games.

As for smurfing, again there really doesn't seem to be much of a way to stop it. There's always the standard stuff like increase grind time to unlock in game feature like comp but the determined "her jetts" grind past it. Only somewhat reasonable solution i've heard is phone number verification, but that also comes with problems like what if you're young and don't have a phone or simply using parents' phone numbers.

just my thoughts :/

ps: sry for a bad welcome to vlr :,)

LOL, "Vanguard is pretty much as good as it gets for anticheat technology"... this doesn't mean anything you know that right? I got friends cheating all the time, they're also good at it, not using things too obvious to get caught, even i used to do that and i NEVER got caught by vanguard. there is no chance in hell those hacks that is selling like water in the desert, would risk their clients being caught by vanguard. It may have happened but very very seldom.

Tbh, vanguard is a joke to scare and fool as many as possible, ofc it probably stop bad cheats, free cheats and bad hackers, but not many professional ones.

That said, whatever you want to believe, i know for a fact there are more than just a few hackers, when i use wallhack it's easy to spot them, because of how they move, ofc, they also see i use it, so most often, them nor i say nothing about it.

So really, just stop trolling and saying "there are a few not many" that is just bullshit, and i know for a fact.

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pebo751 [#25]

LOL, "Vanguard is pretty much as good as it gets for anticheat technology"... this doesn't mean anything you know that right? I got friends cheating all the time, they're also good at it, not using things too obvious to get caught, even i used to do that and i NEVER got caught by vanguard. there is no chance in hell those hacks that is selling like water in the desert, would risk their clients being caught by vanguard. It may have happened but very very seldom.

Tbh, vanguard is a joke to scare and fool as many as possible, ofc it probably stop bad cheats, free cheats and bad hackers, but not many professional ones.

That said, whatever you want to believe, i know for a fact there are more than just a few hackers, when i use wallhack it's easy to spot them, because of how they move, ofc, they also see i use it, so most often, them nor i say nothing about it.

So really, just stop trolling and saying "there are a few not many" that is just bullshit, and i know for a fact.

Name: pebo751
Date: Feb 19, 2022
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u can't be real lmaoo, who's alt is this? Whatever, clearly you know nothing about anti-cheat technology. Facts are facts, Val has significantly less cheaters compared to other games, especially other fps games.

I got friends cheating all the time, they're also good at it, not using things too obvious to get caught, even i used to do that

like come on kid lmfao, am I supposed to listen to someone openly admitting to cheating in their games?? 😂

just stop trolling and saying "there are a few not many" that is just bullshit

also tf? are you high what are you even trying to say

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