IMO I think its Rise, and I have my reasons. They have the cards stacked in their favor with Shanks, neptune, POISED, and c4Lypso. They were really close to getting to qualify for S2:C2, but they went against SEN. But in close competition, you have EG and Version1
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if we are talking specifically about NA its TSM(stay mad TSM fans), although with the recent performances of Geng, IMT, LG, and faze being bad the requirements for being tier 1 is kind of low in NA rn, only teams I'd consider tier 1 being Envy, C9B, Xset, SEN, 100t and Geng and Maybe NRG. if its also other regions it might be CE calling in EU.
WitLitning [#8]It has to be Renegades. They’ve won 3 NSG events in a row and dominated Soniqs, their closest competitor. Version1 and BBG are probably too good now to be considered Tier 2, depending on who you ask. XSET and TSM are also borderline. Team tiers seem to be a very abstract and contested topic.
No way your saying XSET is anywhere near tier 2. They're the most consistent team in NA, I wouldn't be surprised if they get close to making it to Iceland.
Also I would agree, best Tier 2 team is definitely Renegades followed by either Noble or Soniqs.
Psion [#4]if we are talking specifically about NA its TSM(stay mad TSM fans), although with the recent performances of Geng, IMT, LG, and faze being bad the requirements for being tier 1 is kind of low in NA rn, only teams I'd consider tier 1 being Envy, C9B, Xset, SEN, 100t and Geng and Maybe NRG. if its also other regions it might be CE calling in EU.
that's where i have to draw the line. Orgs cant be defined as a T2 team, no matter how bad they are or were. Orgs have hundreds of thousands of dollars in financial backing, they have a massive fanbase, are featured in Primetime matches frequently and often have some of the most respected players in the game. For TSM to be a T2 team is impossible, and the same goes for the rest of the organizations
bigpeensheen [#11]that's where i have to draw the line. Orgs cant be defined as a T2 team, no matter how bad they are or were. Orgs have hundreds of thousands of dollars in financial backing, they have a massive fanbase, are featured in Primetime matches frequently and often have some of the most respected players in the game. For TSM to be a T2 team is impossible, and the same goes for the rest of the organizations
i completely disagree with this take. it has nothing to do with the org or money. t1 vs. t2 is 100% about performance. consistently strong results -->T1 ; consistently decent results --> T2.
bigpeensheen [#11]that's where i have to draw the line. Orgs cant be defined as a T2 team, no matter how bad they are or were. Orgs have hundreds of thousands of dollars in financial backing, they have a massive fanbase, are featured in Primetime matches frequently and often have some of the most respected players in the game. For TSM to be a T2 team is impossible, and the same goes for the rest of the organizations
Rise is an org.
bigpeensheen [#11]that's where i have to draw the line. Orgs cant be defined as a T2 team, no matter how bad they are or were. Orgs have hundreds of thousands of dollars in financial backing, they have a massive fanbase, are featured in Primetime matches frequently and often have some of the most respected players in the game. For TSM to be a T2 team is impossible, and the same goes for the rest of the organizations
renegades, rise, eunited, complexity, soniqs, noble, soar, and more are all orgs. i dont see what youre tryna see
FireII [#16]renegades, rise, eunited, complexity, soniqs, noble, soar, and more are all orgs. i dont see what youre tryna see
tryna say now im a fuckin idiot
BEbow [#10]No way your saying XSET is anywhere near tier 2. They're the most consistent team in NA, I wouldn't be surprised if they get close to making it to Iceland.
Also I would agree, best Tier 2 team is definitely Renegades followed by either Noble or Soniqs.
XSET came out of nowhere imo, but I never really followed them.
WitLitning [#18]XSET came out of nowhere imo, but I never really followed them.
theyve stayed mostly the same since the start, its weird because they all come from different games and the only well known one would be thwifo, coming from fortnite
beb0p [#7]Noyn just instantly picks non-NA team
TO BE FAIR, Soniqs is a team registered in NA that came from the country down under
FireII [#17]tryna say now im a fuckin idiot
IM SORRY, my take didnt make sense, and now i agree with you guys, i was thinking about the behind the scene things about an org, that is MY BAD
bigpeensheen [#24]By the looks of it, many of you guys are saying Renagades. Tbh, i forgot about them after they got fucking railed in First Strike NA
But they have been strong last few games, ngl
BEbow [#10]No way your saying XSET is anywhere near tier 2. They're the most consistent team in NA, I wouldn't be surprised if they get close to making it to Iceland.
Also I would agree, best Tier 2 team is definitely Renegades followed by either Noble or Soniqs.
SEN is the most consistent by far in terms of making it far in tourneys they've got to the grand finals in 10/11 tournaments
bigpeensheen [#22]IM SORRY, my take didnt make sense, and now i agree with you guys, i was thinking about the behind the scene things about an org, that is MY BAD
all good i still love u
WitLitning [#8]It has to be Renegades. They’ve won 3 NSG events in a row and dominated Soniqs, their closest competitor. Version1 and BBG are probably too good now to be considered Tier 2, depending on who you ask. XSET and TSM are also borderline. Team tiers seem to be a very abstract and contested topic.
xset is not borderline
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