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SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
15
17
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2
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OQA
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Yoshiii
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Zennakukin
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Kr1stal
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WIX
OQA
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2
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1
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1
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OQA
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1
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1
2
-1
NakJi
OQA
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-2
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1
+1
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
Jeong Hi
OQA
0
2
-2
1
3
-2
1
0
+1
1
1
+0
1
1
+0
CoSa
OQA
2
1
+1
2
3
-1
3
5
-2
5
0
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3
0
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SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
1
0
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0
1
-1
Hate
OQA
1
0
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NakJi
OQA
0
2
-2
Jeong Hi
OQA
CoSa
OQA
2
0
+2
5
1
+4
3
0
+3
3
0
+3
1
1
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2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
CoSa
OQA
10
2
2
1
57
1
2
Hate
OQA
6
1
3
36
7
1
Jeong Hi
OQA
11
2
1
1
1
51
5
3
WIX
OQA
9
5
53
3
0
NakJi
OQA
5
2
1
1
47
8
1
Kr1stal
SZ
3
2
45
10
1
TORANECO
SZ
5
43
8
0
Yoshiii
SZ
10
6
58
0
3
Zennakukin
SZ
10
2
1
53
4
0
Jemkin
SZ
14
5
2
1
77
3
0
Jemkin
SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
5
3
+2
3
5
-2
2
1
+1
3
3
+0
3
0
+3
Hate
OQA
4
2
+2
2
6
-4
2
0
+2
0
5
-5
1
2
-1
NakJi
OQA
1
3
-2
5
3
+2
3
3
+0
4
3
+1
2
1
+1
Jeong Hi
OQA
3
3
+0
3
3
+0
5
2
+3
3
4
-1
7
2
+5
CoSa
OQA
5
2
+3
3
7
-4
2
4
-2
4
2
+2
4
0
+4
Jemkin
SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
2
1
+1
0
1
-1
Hate
OQA
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
NakJi
OQA
Jeong Hi
OQA
0
1
-1
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
CoSa
OQA
1
0
+1
1
3
-2
2
2
+0
3
0
+3
Jemkin
SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
Hate
OQA
1
0
+1
NakJi
OQA
Jeong Hi
OQA
CoSa
OQA
1
0
+1
2
1
+1
1
0
+1
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
CoSa
OQA
5
Round 4
Zennakukin
Jemkin
Round 5
Zennakukin
Kr1stal
Round 16
TORANECO
Jemkin
Round 20
Jemkin
Zennakukin
Round 22
Yoshiii
Kr1stal
1
Round 17
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
Kr1stal
Jemkin
54
0
1
Hate
OQA
1
Round 6
Yoshiii
TORANECO
35
3
1
Jeong Hi
OQA
6
Round 1
TORANECO
Kr1stal
Round 2
Jemkin
Kr1stal
Round 7
TORANECO
Yoshiii
Round 8
Kr1stal
TORANECO
Round 10
Jemkin
Zennakukin
Round 16
Kr1stal
Zennakukin
1
Round 15
Yoshiii
Kr1stal
TORANECO
Jemkin
67
0
1
WIX
OQA
4
Round 2
Yoshiii
TORANECO
Round 7
Jemkin
Kr1stal
Round 10
Kr1stal
Yoshiii
Round 22
Jemkin
Zennakukin
1
Round 8
Yoshiii
Jemkin
Zennakukin
54
1
0
NakJi
OQA
1
Round 18
Kr1stal
Zennakukin
1
Round 1
Jemkin
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
1
Round 16
Yoshiii
1
Round 1
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
51
5
1
Kr1stal
SZ
40
0
0
TORANECO
SZ
1
Round 11
NakJi
Jeong Hi
39
5
0
Yoshiii
SZ
3
Round 5
CoSa
NakJi
Round 11
CoSa
Hate
Round 22
WIX
Hate
4
Round 3
CoSa
WIX
Hate
Round 14
WIX
Jeong Hi
NakJi
Round 16
CoSa
WIX
Jeong Hi
Round 20
Jeong Hi
Hate
NakJi
76
0
0
Zennakukin
SZ
3
Round 1
Hate
Jeong Hi
Round 8
NakJi
Jeong Hi
Round 18
WIX
Hate
1
Round 13
Jeong Hi
Hate
WIX
1
Round 2
NakJi
Jeong Hi
WIX
59
2
0
Jemkin
SZ
2
Round 3
Jeong Hi
NakJi
Round 9
NakJi
Jeong Hi
1
Round 21
WIX
Hate
CoSa
1
Round 19
Hate
WIX
CoSa
NakJi
47
1
0
Jemkin
SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
3
10
-7
3
3
+0
1
2
-1
2
1
+1
5
4
+1
Hate
OQA
1
8
-7
1
4
-3
2
1
+1
3
3
+0
0
2
-2
NakJi
OQA
1
5
-4
3
8
-5
1
0
+1
2
2
+0
2
2
+0
Jeong Hi
OQA
3
4
-1
2
3
-1
3
3
+0
4
2
+2
2
1
+1
CoSa
OQA
5
3
+2
2
1
+1
4
4
+0
2
3
-1
2
4
-2
Jemkin
SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
1
2
-1
1
0
+1
1
1
+0
Hate
OQA
0
2
-2
1
1
+0
NakJi
OQA
0
2
-2
0
1
-1
1
0
+1
Jeong Hi
OQA
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1
-1
0
1
-1
CoSa
OQA
1
0
+1
0
2
-2
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
Jemkin
SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
1
0
+1
Hate
OQA
NakJi
OQA
0
1
-1
Jeong Hi
OQA
CoSa
OQA
2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
CoSa
OQA
2
Round 11
Jemkin
Kr1stal
Round 18
Kr1stal
TORANECO
56
0
0
Hate
OQA
2
Round 5
Jemkin
Zennakukin
Round 16
TORANECO
Yoshiii
31
1
0
Jeong Hi
OQA
4
Round 5
TORANECO
Yoshiii
Round 12
TORANECO
Kr1stal
Round 16
Jemkin
Kr1stal
Round 17
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
Jeong Hi
1
Round 11
TORANECO
Jemkin
Zennakukin
1
Round 17
Yoshiii
1
Round 11
TORANECO
Zennakukin
Jemkin
57
3
2
WIX
OQA
3
Round 4
Yoshiii
Zennakukin
Kr1stal
Round 17
TORANECO
Kr1stal
Jemkin
Round 18
Jemkin
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
48
0
0
NakJi
OQA
1
Round 12
Zennakukin
Jemkin
35
2
0
Kr1stal
SZ
1
Round 2
CoSa
Hate
1
Round 7
NakJi
WIX
CoSa
43
8
1
TORANECO
SZ
2
Round 15
CoSa
WIX
Round 20
WIX
CoSa
50
1
0
Yoshiii
SZ
5
Round 5
Hate
NakJi
Round 6
Hate
NakJi
Round 10
NakJi
Jeong Hi
Round 17
NakJi
WIX
Round 20
NakJi
Jeong Hi
1
Round 9
Hate
NakJi
WIX
67
0
2
Zennakukin
SZ
2
Round 14
Hate
CoSa
Round 19
Hate
WIX
1
Round 21
Hate
NakJi
CoSa
44
0
0
Jemkin
SZ
7
Round 2
NakJi
WIX
Round 4
CoSa
Hate
Round 8
WIX
NakJi
Round 10
WIX
Hate
Round 13
Hate
Jeong Hi
Round 14
Jeong Hi
WIX
Round 15
Jeong Hi
NakJi
1
Round 11
CoSa
Hate
WIX
1
Round 1
NakJi
CoSa
Hate
WIX
91
0
0
Jemkin
SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
7
4
+3
3
2
+1
1
2
-1
4
5
-1
4
2
+2
Hate
OQA
0
9
-9
4
1
+3
3
1
+2
4
1
+3
2
3
-1
NakJi
OQA
2
2
+0
5
2
+3
2
4
-2
3
4
-1
5
5
+0
Jeong Hi
OQA
3
8
-5
2
2
+0
3
1
+2
1
2
-1
1
4
-3
CoSa
OQA
2
4
-2
5
3
+2
6
2
+4
5
1
+4
4
4
+0
Jemkin
SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
SZ
Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
0
1
-1
1
0
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Hate
OQA
4
0
+4
NakJi
OQA
2
0
+2
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
Jeong Hi
OQA
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1
-1
1
1
+0
1
0
+1
1
0
+1
0
1
-1
CoSa
OQA
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1
-1
1
0
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1
1
+0
1
0
+1
2
0
+2
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SZ
Yoshiii
SZ
TORANECO
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Zennakukin
SZ
Kr1stal
SZ
WIX
OQA
0
1
-1
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OQA
NakJi
OQA
0
1
-1
Jeong Hi
OQA
CoSa
OQA
1
0
+1
3
0
+3
3
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0
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1
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2K 3K 4K 5K 1v1 1v2 1v3 1v4 1v5 ECON PL DE
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OQA
3
Round 3
Kr1stal
TORANECO
Round 5
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
Round 11
TORANECO
Yoshiii
2
Round 8
TORANECO
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
Round 23
Kr1stal
Jemkin
Zennakukin
1
Round 13
Kr1stal
Jemkin
TORANECO
Zennakukin
1
Round 3
TORANECO
Kr1stal
60
1
1
Hate
OQA
3
Round 6
Yoshiii
Zennakukin
Round 7
TORANECO
Kr1stal
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Yoshiii
Zennakukin
1
Round 21
Yoshiii
TORANECO
Zennakukin
3
Round 6
Zennakukin
Round 9
Kr1stal
Round 11
Zennakukin
42
3
0
Jeong Hi
OQA
1
Round 7
Yoshiii
Jemkin
1
Round 14
TORANECO
Jemkin
Kr1stal
28
2
0
WIX
OQA
5
Round 6
Kr1stal
Jemkin
Round 11
Jemkin
Kr1stal
Round 12
Zennakukin
Jemkin
Round 16
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
Round 18
Jemkin
Yoshiii
1
Round 9
Jemkin
Zennakukin
TORANECO
57
2
0
NakJi
OQA
3
Round 12
Yoshiii
Kr1stal
Round 17
Zennakukin
Yoshiii
Round 22
Yoshiii
Kr1stal
1
Round 18
TORANECO
Kr1stal
Zennakukin
55
1
0
Kr1stal
SZ
2
Round 9
Jeong Hi
WIX
Round 14
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NakJi
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Round 17
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NakJi
CoSa
51
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0
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SZ
2
Round 16
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Jeong Hi
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WIX
39
2
0
Yoshiii
SZ
2
Round 1
CoSa
WIX
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NakJi
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1
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NakJi
CoSa
31
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1
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SZ
5
Round 6
WIX
NakJi
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Round 13
WIX
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Round 19
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WIX
57
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SZ
5
Round 3
WIX
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Round 10
NakJi
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NakJi
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Round 21
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3
Round 15
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WIX
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They beat more than just EDG lol.

never did anything in officials

PRX and ZETA never did anything in officials until M1 2022, what's your point lol? Just because they did not have results does not mean they won't have results in future. ESL isn't even a high-stakes tournament.

ur tryna say OQA can punch in the weight of teams like DRX and are a force to reckon with

:eyes: Clueless he lacks the critical information kekw, maybe not for OQA, but I never said OQA is as good as DRX. I just said they're a good team.

that they did win I am 100000% not gonna make statements like SZ > CR until the two teams go at it in a bo3

CR lost Rion, Astell, and Munchkin lol. Their best players are Meiy and Popogachi. Meiy is the only really good player. Makiba is hot trash.

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#33
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:eyes: Clueless he lacks the critical information kekw, maybe not for OQA, but I never said OQA is as good as DRX. I just said they're a good team.

You are performing extreme mental gymnastics with your logic because you are trying to mix scrim results with what just transpired before your eyes.

We just saw SZ lose to OQA. No, SZ didn't play good Valorant. No OQA isn't a good team. No, Scarz isn't better than OQA. You call Makiba trash but are you forgetting the very roster we are comparing it to?

Only time can settle this debate because our perceptions of these two teams are wildly different. I think Scarz are hot trash and you think they're the best ascension team in Japan.

PRX and ZETA never did anything in officials until M1 2022, what's your point lol? Just because they did not have results does not mean they won't have results in future. ESL isn't even a high-stakes tournament.

PRX and ZETA won their respective region, the fact that I have to point this out is worrying.

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#34
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How is it mental gymnastics to say OQA are a good team?

I think we'll have to see. It's a win for me either way. If Scarz are a bad team that's fine, likely the best JP ascension team will be mixed with Koreans. If Scarz are a good team, then I'd be right.

Idk about you but I believe in my vision of the game and although I haven't watched much or played it in a while I think it's still good enough to indicate whether a team is good or not.
Scarz have yet to play vs CR, and you only see results. I think Scarz can beat CR

Anyone Immortal+ can see Scarz has hints of good teamplay and coordination, and OQA has good reads and play their comp well.

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#35
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Idk about you but I believe in my vision of the game and although I haven't watched much or played it in a while I think it's still good enough to indicate whether a team is good or not.

Okay. So you think OQA played better Valorant than OQ? You think OQ or OQA can hold a candle with DK, NTH, FL, FAV, IGZIST?

Rhetorical question, I just wanted to make you realize the absurdity saying losing to OQA was good Valorant.

The CR vs OQA game wasn't even broadcasted, I've watched every CR game since Munchkin's departure and they look disciplined. From what point in time are you saying CR looked like trash?

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#36
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Now THAT is pure cap.

The CR vs OQA game wasn't even broadcasted, I've watched every CR game since Munchkin's departure and they look disciplined.

https://youtu.be/KQgO4o9zFFM

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#38
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damn I didnt even see that stream, my fault

Im not gonna watch the vod because I dont have time, but you think CR played like shit here?

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#39
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lmfao what do you think buddy

convo ends here, our opinions too different

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