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Why NA deserves 6 spots

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#39
h9zard
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Obviously the situation you said "5 bronze" would never happen either. And I wasnt literal when I said "they dont care abt teams being strong". Not to the point where they accept bronze players. I just exaggerated to prove ur point wrong just like you did.

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So... we're saying pretty much the same thing. It's a mix between investment and team, some teams may be withdrawn in the future if they don't perform well (RIOT said that). I don't understand why so many complaints about "strong teams", after all, it's important to have a strong team in the franchise or will be kicked in the future.

Thinking only about cheering or visualization doesn't guarantee you a spot. And that's what the topic is about.

#41
Icysoda57
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The teams riot selects will be in for life like the LCS idk where you heard that they’ll be kicked

#42
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no. its not necessary to have a good team to GET INTO franchising which is all this talk is about. its only important to have a good team to STAY in franchising and once ur in franchising ur pretty much gonna have a good team cause of the amount of resources and talent available to choose from. there is a difference.

#43
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Well, we agree to disagree. You are misunderstanding the context of a strong team. I'm not saying they have to be projects with exceptional players, but promising players. If OCEANIA had numerous ORGS, they would probably not all be accepted, as the region is still weak and doesn't have so many quality players. This is the point. Or maybe they would even be accepted, but with proposals to take over SEA, KR or JP teams. Anyway, this discussion has no future.

#46
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bro my whole point is the team strength isnt the big priority for them for franchising. ie they arent looking at the 5 best teams in the region and directly offering them spots, which is enough to dispute ur entire argument. Surely you dont think NA top 7-8 NA teams are bad enough to be rejected.

#49
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Now you changed your speech, back there you said they didn't give a damn about the quality of the team. Now you said that it's not a big priority, I can even agree on that, because it's an equation between investment and team, and in fact investment speaks louder. You need to review what was said back there, as it gave the impression that the importance of the team was 0.

#50
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they arent looking at the 5 best teams in the region and directly offering them spots, which is enough to dispute ur entire argument.

no I still stand by it. But even if Im wrong and riot does consider "team strength" the fact that they dont just go for the 5 best teams in the region is enough to dispute everything u said. like if SEN get in franchising they are going in with 3 players on the roster. I dont think that makes a "strong team".

your whole argument now stands on the fact that I said "they dont give a shit" and you can use that against me in the literal context and say things like "they wouldnt allow 5 bronzes even if they got a lot of money", when we both know I didnt mean it that literally.

#51
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You're taking it too seriously, man, relax.
Now that you've confirmed that you didn't mean it literally, there's no reason to argue, we agree that they look at investment and team. In the first posts, you hinted that you actually thought the team had a non-existent relevance.

About NA, the fact is that they didn't perform well in masters 1 and 2 with 2 teams, so having 8 teams seems sad to me. The time factor is important for riot, so much so that they already want to know the lineup in October. Anyway, our discussion no longer makes sense, we agree on almost everything.

Brazil with 3 teams also needs to prove itself, at the moment we only have loud with a high level. Furia and nip made campaigns 'ok'

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